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To: JohnHuang2
GOD AND MAN IN THE SKINNER BOX

Attending college in the 60's, I was exposed to the writings of BF Skinner in a mandatory Psychology 101 class. At the time I was struck by the time and energy the department devoted to this man and his theories. Essentially, he put a chicken in a box and taught it to play baseball by rewarding it with feed. When the chicken pressed a lever on cue, or ran a base, it got a pellet. Skinner was able to train animals to a remarkable degree with this method of positive reinforcement. He also demonstrated that negative reinforcement, such as electric shocks, was not as effective as positive reinforcement in controlling animal behavior.

So far, Skinner has not done the world much harm and perhaps he has even contributed something useful if you are Siegfried and Roy. But it soon became clear that Skinner and my psych professors had ambitions grander than dog and pony shows when they required a reading of Skinner's Walden Two. Here Skinner extrapolates his findings from chickens to people and causes real mischief. Essentially, he postulates that the humsn animal is a TABULA RASA, neither good nor evil, which can be conditioned into good behavior. There are no evil people just poorly conditioned behavior. All that is required to have generations of well behaved human chickens is a grand enough Skinner box to positively reinforce positive behavior. Of course, it does not take a socialist to see that it would take more than a village, indeed it would take a federal burocracy, to build and maintain a big enough box.

The mischief comes in when this thinking invades the penal (whoops, I mean corrections)system or the educational establishment and so on. Praeger, in his wonderful essay, has alluded to the effects on education of this baleful presumption about the nature of man. He is absolutely right when he says:

No issue has a greater influence on determining your social and political views than whether you view human nature as basically good or not.

This is why liberals loathe believing christians. This is why liberals are collectivists and conservatives are individualists. This is why the Democrat party slices and dices the electorate into groups. This is why Patty Murray said what she said. The old adage that liberals love mankind in the abstract and as a group (read African-Americans) but despise them on an individual level finds its origins here. This is why believing Christians and believing Jews are finding that they hold much in common and have a common philosophical enemy in secular Jews and goyische pagans. The application of this insight is almost endless.

13 posted on 12/31/2002 5:53:31 AM PST by nathanbedford
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To: nathanbedford
Excellent post. Prager gets it slightly wrong when he claims that liberals believe in the inherent goodness of people. All the stuff I heard and read from the sixties tried very hard to establish the "blank slate" theory. The TR theory fit in with leftists ideas of reshaping society. If everything you knew and did was learned, then anything, including changing gender traits, was possible. And nobody was responsible for anything they did, only society.

That bogus theory has been blown out of the water most recently by Steven Pinker. I can't recall the name of his book, but it's being discussed and reviewed on a lot media outlets.

20 posted on 12/31/2002 6:27:54 AM PST by driftless
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To: nathanbedford
"This is why liberals loathe believing christians. This is why liberals are collectivists and conservatives are individualists. This is why the Democrat party slices and dices the electorate into groups."

...Their brainwashing was a success. Individulists are more resistent to conditioning.

40 posted on 12/31/2002 7:58:10 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: nathanbedford
I had to laugh because one of my favorite lines is that the marxists (liberals) love the masses, it's people they hate. I discovered that working in a liberal arts college in the peace studies program. Ask anyone to donate toward the homeless mission or anything else outside of themselves was a joke.
129 posted on 01/01/2003 12:32:33 PM PST by Marysecretary
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