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To: Barnacle
I should check my premise? You mis-stated my premise. Why? I presume in order to create a strawman open to easy attack.

Excellent post Barnacle…right on the mark. If the Pro-Illegal Immigration Apologists couldn't use Straw Man arguments and False Dilemmas to promote their open borders idiocy they would have little to say. Their irrational line of thinking which suggests that if we can't "perfectly" seal off the borders we shouldn’t do anything then to bolster border security is ludicrous on its face.

I particularly liked your Football Analogy. You effectively brought home the point with that.

And as a famous man once said: “A government that treats aliens like citizens, will ultimately treat its citizens like aliens.”

As you know, this is most certainly the case today where American Citizens are treated to the spectacle of our state, federal and local governments tripping over themselves to cater to every whim and demand of the immigrant community--legal or otherwise on the taxpayers dime. OUR government now sees fit to dole out taxpayer-financed government loans to immigrants that are unavailable to Citizens to go along with their free medical care, free schooling, food stamps, subsidized housing (the list goes on).

And when it comes to law enforcement there is two distinct set of enforcement rules: one for citizens and one for illegal aliens. In case there is any confusion, many of our laws don’t apply to Aliens but ALL LAWS apply to Citizens especially where the IRS is concerned.

We as a nation are well down the road where citizens are in fact treated like aliens and I don’t think George Bush is going to do anything but further alienate of citizenry of America.

BTW, have you ever heard Bush utter the word "Citizen" in his compassionate conservative rhetoric? It's not in his vernacular.

Have a happy and prosperous New Year Barnacle!

75 posted on 12/31/2002 3:16:09 PM PST by WRhine
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To: WRhine
Thanks Dude. Happy New Year to you too, and cheers!

A great year it will be 2003!
77 posted on 12/31/2002 5:38:19 PM PST by Barnacle
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To: WRhine
If you must insult me indirectly in response to Barnacle, why not at least ping me directly?

If you are NOT a pro-illegal immigration apologist or a supporter of open borders idiocy....then put your critical thinking where your post is...

All I was asking to those who had insisted that Bush was doing this all wrong, (which you have apparently chimed in with,) is to merely support your criticism with a plan of action. WHAT IN THE HELL WOULD YOU DO?!?

There are 6 THOUSAND miles of borders between Mexico and Canada alone. I merely ask a question which you nor I have the answer to. Can our military line up and SEAL OFF our borders in any meaningful way to keep out evil-doers? One entire Division could place one man, what, every half mile or so for a single watch shift? I ask you to consider that our military planners have considered this, and just maybe: maybe it's not possible right now....which does not border on treason as Barnacle suggested. It's not comforting to know that we're not all-powerful, but we're not. Even if you could check a tiny percentage of the container traffic through Houston, you don't get ANY return from those that have already infiltrated our society, or those that will turn against us. I like the strategy of killing the foreign head and financiers of the terrorists, such as in Afghanistan, Iraq and NoKo.

I don't say we should do "nothing" to bolster border security...we should make the INS step up and do their job...and the FBI should chase down bad guys left and right and take them to court. But the Military, in my opinion, should stay out there killing bad guys out in the rest of the world--NOT IN MY BACKYARD--as the saying goes!!!

So I ask you to back off the "logical fallacy" adamancy with folks like me (non-Bushbots) until you realize that it's actually possible for you to be fallible as well.

Happy 2003.

79 posted on 12/31/2002 7:15:24 PM PST by sam_paine
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