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To: Brad Cloven
What I find fascinating is the fact that these Muslim guys keep going back up to the Seattle area. If I wanted to cross the US border...I'd make my way to Montana and just across to some small town, get on a bus and make my way to Helena. Why continue going back to Seattle each time? Is there some kinda big Muslim community in Seattle or Portland that they have to use as their support station?
45 posted on 12/30/2002 10:17:25 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
Is there some kinda big Muslim community in Seattle or Portland that they have to use as their support station?
How dare you mention Seattle and Muslim in the same sentence w/o yelling "The Christian opprossors!" in it too.
There's a sizeable Muslim population, but there's a much larger sympathatic population. People were stumbling over themselves to go out and "protect" mosques after a couple of yahoos threatened some.
I think a source of all this sympathy is that nothing bad ever happens around here. Everyone's too mellow to cause any problems. The reason there isn't much crime (well unless you're in Tacoma, the car theft capital of the nation) is that the thieves are too stoned to do anything major.
There's a sizeable Somali population here too. We had that bust about 6 months ago where Somali grocery stores were funneling money to al-Qaeda.
49 posted on 12/30/2002 10:26:32 AM PST by lelio
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To: pepsionice
"Why continue going back to Seattle each time? Is there some kinda big Muslim community in Seattle or Portland that they have to use as their support station?"

1) The border crossings are packed; there are hundreds of thousands crossing per day on the I-5 corridor between Seattle and Vancouver, B.C.

2) The immigrant (non-white) population of both Washington and British Columbia is large. There are so many folk who look like Arabs that the terrorist guy will look just like thousands of other legitimate folks that crossed that day.

3) Racial Profiling in Washington will get you arrested, written up in the local papers, and condemned by community leaders. Border Patrol Agents will be stopping blue haired grandmothers, not Arab males 17 to 40. This just helps to ensure their sinecures.

4) Enforcing the law in Seattle doesn't happen. One black officer I know refuses to make traffic stops: "If I've got to fill out forms on my perception of the driver's ethinicity every time I make a stop, I'm not going to make a stop. You people in Seattle are nuts. I live in Maple Valley and vote Republican."

5) There is general support for any Anti-American cause in Seattle. I am quite sure the place is riddled with safe houses. Heck, I'd go so far as to say that within the city limits, Osama would have more than a 50/50 chance of knocking on a door and getting invited to spend the night. Bush would be assaulted at the same doors.

6) The Muslim community has the protection of the political elite. Witness the "Intern" of the former Portland mayor who was arrested by the Feds when he returned from China, having failed to get to Afghanistan in time to fight with Mullah Omar. Portland was outraged that he was arrested.

7) The Political Elite in the PNW refuse to cooperate with the Feds. I believe it is Portland that has officially refused to assist Federal Law Enforcement in the War on Terror.

I could go on, but I've got a day job. Suffice it to say that Al-Quaeda will be very happy in Seattle or Portland.

57 posted on 12/30/2002 11:42:35 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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To: pepsionice; MarMema; Grampa Dave; TLBSHOW
Why continue going back to Seattle each time?

1. CongressTraitor Jim "Bagdad" McDermott travels to Iraq and badmouths the USA. He comes back and gives speeches calling Bush Hitler.

2. Traitor PoS Senator Patty Murray praises UBL and raises 'questions' about the USA in front of impressionable schoolchildren.

3. King County Executive Ron Sims and Seattle City Councilman Larry Gossett openly praise the terrorist Ujaama brothers as upstanding citizens and community role models.

4. FBI Special Agent in Charge (SAC) of the Seattle office - Mandigo - spends his time *appeasing* muslims instead of rounding them up.

5. The local INS is unbelievably inept (see Malvo case). They spend time travelling to 'community forums' orchestrated by the radical "Hate Free Zone" group, again to appease muslims and illegal aliens.

6. The Seattle PD will not ask about one's immigration status as a matter of POLICY.

7. The media is overwhelmingly anti-American, anti-Bush, and socialist. They ignore anything that would put anyone or anything to the right of Marx or Lenin in a positive light.

There's lots more but that's a start.

58 posted on 12/30/2002 11:46:26 AM PST by Abar
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To: pepsionice
Why continue going back to Seattle each time? Is there some kinda big Muslim community in Seattle or Portland that they have to use as their support station?

That, and the local police have advertised that they are not going to profile, detain, interrogate, or arrest ME Terrorists.

72 posted on 12/30/2002 12:42:10 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: pepsionice
If I wanted to cross the US border...I'd make my way to Montana and just across to some small town, get on a bus and make my way to Helena.

They could try that little border crossing just west of Glacier NP, about 25 miles north of Polebridge.

Of course, its cold, and snowy, and 50 miles from Noweheresville, and loaded with griz.

Not to mention the weird INS/Customs/Border Patrol personnel manning the post. They're a pretty bored lot, got unusually fidgety when I stopped there to ask for directions. One of the "agents" - wearing a T-shirt and cowboy hat - stayed out near my car, and clearly had a weapon drawn (casually held behind the back) as I approached the building. Inside I was grilled by another guy - longhaired and in blue jeans - at the time I presumed he was DEA or Customs.

I can't imagine what sort of people do border crossings there. But the whole encounter was pretty bizarre.

79 posted on 12/30/2002 3:40:27 PM PST by angkor
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