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Do Moslems, Christians and Jews Believe in the Same God?"
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | November 29, 2002 | Serge Trifkovic

Posted on 12/30/2002 6:04:44 AM PST by SJackson

One in a series of excerpts adapted by Robert Locke from Dr. Serge Trifkovic’s new book, The Sword of the Prophet: A Politically-Incorrect Guide to Islam

One of the clichés endlessly repeated by those who would conceal the dangerous potentialities inherent in Islam is that Moslems "believe in the same God" as Christians and Jews. But this is a severe distortion of the truth, for what Moslems fundamentally believe is that they know the true nature of the God that Judaism and Christianity tell lies about. Lies for which Christians and Jews will be punished in hell. The fact that Moslems share Levantine monotheism with us thus makes them more, not less, antagonistic to us on a religious level. Hopes for reconciliation on the grounds of common monotheism, as opposed to a realistic "good fences make good neighbors" civilizational détente, are wishful thinking.

The widespread belief in the non-Muslim world that Islam accords respect to the Old Testament and the Gospels as steps in progression to Mohammad’s revelation is mistaken. Modern Muslim apologists try to stress the supposed underlying similarities and compatibility of the three faiths, but this is not the view of orthodox Islam. Muhammad’s insistence that there is a heavenly proto-Scripture and that previous "books" are merely distorted and tainted copies sent to previous nations or communities means that these scriptures are the "barbarous Koran" as opposed to the true, Arabic one. (Let’s leave aside for a minute the puzzling question of how any degree of "distortion" of the Koran could produce either an Old or a New Testament.) The Tradition also regards the non-canonical Gospel of Barnabas, and not the New Testament, as the one that Jesus taught. The Koran alone is the true word of God and sets aside all previous revelations.

While the influence of orthodox Christianity upon the Koran has been slight, apocryphal and heretical Christian legends are the second most important original source of Islam. In other words, Islam contains an awful lot that Christians have deliberately rejected over the years as religiously unsound. There are also influences of Sabaism, of Zoroastrianism, and of ancient Arabian paganism, including the divine sanction for the practices of polygamy and slavery. The reports in both the Koran and the Hadith (authoritative traditional sayings) concerning paradise, the houris, (virgins) the youths, the jinn (genies) and the angel of death have been directly taken from the ancient books of the Zoroastrians. Zoroastrianism also originated the story that on the Day of Judgment all people will have to cross a bridge stretched across hell leading to paradise on which the unbelievers will stumble and fall down to hell.

The biblical stories been passed on to Muhammad presumably from Jewish and Christian sources, but it is probable that he never read the Old or the New Testament. Those narratives had deeply impressed him, but being incomplete and imprecise, they gave his imagination free rein. Of the books of the Old Testament he knew only of the Torah or Pentateuch and the Book of Psalms, while the Scriptures he treats collectively as "the Gospels." Muhammad took these narratives as they were given to him, and their use in the Koran amounts to random, approximate and often badly misunderstood reproduction of the Talmudic traditions and the Apocrypha. Moreover, they are of course devoid of their original contexts and of the spiritual message of the original.

Many Old Testament stories are changed beyond recognition, and can be treated as a "source" only in the most general sense. Abraham did not offer Isaac, but Ishmael, as a sacrifice. "Haman" was pharaoh’s chief minister, even though the Haman known to Jews lived in Babylon one thousand years later. Moses was picked from the river not by his sister but by his mother. A Samaritan was the one who molded the golden calf for the children of Israel and misguided them, even though Samarians arrived only after the Babylonian exile. The accounts of Moses’ life are sketchy and say nothing of his character, descent, the time he was sent as a prophet, the purpose of his mission, and where, how and why he appointed Aaron as his deputy. It does not relate the argument between them and the people of Israel, which is crucial to the story. The story of Noah reflected Muhammad’s dilemmas and difficulties rather than Noah’s mission, and even the names of the idols that Noah warns against are Arabic.

The Koran makes reference to Jesus, Mary and events related to them, but with a critical distinction. It explicitly denies that Jesus was crucified: Allah made the Jews so confused that they crucified somebody else instead who had the likeness of Christ: "They slew him not nor crucified but it appeared so unto them." Muslims claim that an impostor by the name of Shabih was crucified, and he resembled Jesus in his face only. It seems illogical to those who count "proud" as one of the "99 most beautiful names of Allah" that Jesus, who was capable of raising the dead and of healing the blind and the leper, willingly submitted to the cross and failed to destroy the Jews who intended to hurt him. Islam rejects the whole concept of the crucifixion, claiming that it is against reason to assume that Allah would not forgive man’s sins without the cross: to say so is to limit his power: "He forgives whom he will, and he chastises whom he will."

The denial of the Trinity is also explicit: Allah begets not, i.e. he is no Father; and was not begotten, that is, he is no Son; and no one is like him, which means he is no Holy Spirit. "They are infidels who say, Allah is the third of three." But "Isa" is not the Son of Allah, only a special prophet, and the Christians’ contrary claim shows how they are perverted. The Christians are guilty of blasphemy because of their belief in the "trinity" of Allah, Mary, and Jesus. The "real" Jesus was a righteous prophet and a good Muslim who paved the way for the final prophet, Muhammad himself.

There is a wishful myth in circulation among liberals that Islam accords respect to all "people of the book," i.e. Christians and Jews in addition to Moslems. While Islam indeed accords them a higher standing than it does to polytheists like Hindus (pace the question of whether Hinduism properly understood is truly polytheistic) or African animists, this hardly amounts to respect. Of all the "people of the book" only Muslims can attain salvation. Jews’ and Christians’ refusal to acknowledge Mohammed as the messenger of God dooms them to unbelief and eternal suffering after death. Christians are mortal sinners because of their belief in the divinity of Christ, and their condemnation is irrevocable: "God will forbid him the garden and the fire will be his abode."

Unlike the Christian faith in God revealing Himself through Christ, the Koran is not a revelation of Allah – a heretical concept in Islam – but the direct revelation of his commandments and the communication of his law. It has been said that the Koran, to a Muslim, is not the perfected Gospel, it Christ, the Word Incarnate. This is a somewhat tenuous metaphor, however, not a valid parallel: Christian God "comes down" and seeks man because of His fatherly love. The Fall cast a shadow, the Incarnation makes reconciliation possible. Allah, by contrast, is cold, haughty, unpredictable, unknowable, capricious, distant, and so purely transcendent that no "relationship" is possible. He reveals only his will, not himself. Allah is "everywhere," and therefore nowhere relevant to us. He is uninterested in making our acquaintance, let alone in being near to us because of love. We are still utterly unable to grasp his purposes and all we can do is what we have to do, to obey his command.

The Koran claims to be the fulfillment of a religious design which was imperfectly revealed to the Jews and to the Christians. It is the crowning synthesis, the final word. But viewing the matter objectively, leaving aside for a moment the question of the actual truth of the book, it seems hard to see how the Koran is a synthesis of anything. The way in which Christianity makes sense – again, simply as a logical matter and leaving aside the truth of it – as a fulfillment of Judaism, is clear even to the unbeliever. But the Koran’s claim is singularly implausible. Non-Muslim commentators fail to see in what way is the Koran an improvement over, or advancement on, the moral teaching, language, style, or coherence of the Old and New Testament. It is looks, feels, sounds like a construct entirely human in origin and intent, clear in its earthly sources of inspiration and the fulfillment of the daily needs, personal and political, of its author.

Finally, one cannot ignore that whatever mildly friendly things the Koran may say about Judaism and Christianity in its early part, the late Surras also signify the final break with the Jews and Christians, who are fiercely denounced. The Muslims must be merciless to the unbelievers but kind to each other. "Whoso of you makes them his friends is one of them." War, not friendship, is mandatory until Islam reigns everywhere. Muslims are ordered to fight the unbelievers, "and let them find harshness in you." They must kill the unbelievers "wherever you find them." The punishment for resistance is execution or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides. By the stage in his life during which these Surras were written, Muhammad was no longer trying to convert his hearers by examples, promises, and warnings; he addresses them as their master and sovereign, praising them or blaming them for their conduct, giving laws and precepts as needed. His raw dogmatism stands, finally, naked of all pretence.

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Serge Trifkovic received his PhD from the University of Southampton in England and pursued postdoctoral research at the Hoover Institution at Stanford. His past journalistic outlets have included the BBC World Service, the Voice of America, CNN International, MSNBC, U.S. News & World Report, The Washington Times, the Philadelphia Inquirer, The Times of London, and the Cleveland Plain Dealer. He is foreign affairs editor of Chronicles.


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To: ArGee
What is a religion?

A system of beliefs that does one (or a combination) of three things:

1. Excuses your behavior.

2. Ignores your behavior.

3. Promotes your behavior.

101 posted on 12/30/2002 9:51:21 AM PST by kinsman redeemer
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To: Jimer
I didn't accuse you of making moral judgements... in fact you seem quite incapable of them. Such lies, by the way, are the last refuge of one who has no valid point. They are also the tools of Satan, and you are his williing puppet when you so deceive.
102 posted on 12/30/2002 9:56:05 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Gargantua
I've been lurking on this thread for a while and thought I'd throw in my two cents. Here's a little of my personal philosophy surrounding biblical events...

Have you ever wondered why Satan is so interested in the fall of man? I mean, what's in it for him and why should he care if we disobey God? I think it's because HE disobeyed God and was thrown down from Heaven. He has no hope of reconciliation because he doesn't desire to be reconciled... he still wants to BE God. However, he is condemned.

Enter man. God created man in His image and loves man. Knowing all that was to be, He created man to demonstrate His love and His justice to His creation. Therefore, He knew man would fall from before his creation and had His salvific plan in motion from the start.

As I said above, Satan doesn't desire reconciliation... he wants a pardon--no strings attached. A pardon is free and doesn't require atonement... he can continue to be rotten in his core and yet be free of his condemnation. Surely God wouldn't condemn His beloved creation in man... surely God's love will prevail and He will pardon the sinner. If the devil can cause man to stumble, God will issue that pardon. If God is just, the pardon will apply to all sinners (including Satan). Satan sought to lay a trap in which God can show Himself to either not love his creation in man or not be just in His selective pardoning. But God is not so easily entrapped...

Rather than issue a pardon free of all strings and negating the punishment of His just wrath, God instead came in the flesh Himself to suffer the punishment we were due. Our just sentence deserved was death and it was carried out. God showed His absolute love and absolute justice in this action. He fulfilled the prophecies of old and ransomed man from his sin by sacrificing His body on the cross. No man could atone for all of mankind, only God Himself.

Man remains free in his body and in his will to serve or reject God. God at once reconciled man to Himself and preserved man's free will. We are not slaves to God, we were slaves to the world. God sets the captives free.

The Islamic world regards Jesus as a messenger of God... and no more than this. However, they still deny much of Jesus's message that no one comes to the Father but through Him. In their faith, God did not come into this world to reconcile man to Himself. Though God is eternal and from eternity has not changed, the muslim believes in rules contrary to the ten commandments and the greatest two commandments reiterated by Jesus. Jesus said clearly that His kingdom is not of this world. Muslims seek to make the world an Islamic kingdom by conversion or the sword. God is spiritual while the God of Islam is temporal. The Jew knew God and were culled from men to show God's power to the nations. Despite multiple attempts to destroy the Jews, God preserves them still. The muslims seek the destruction of all Jews and Christians. Jesus, founder of Christianity, was born a Jew and fulfilled Mosaic prophecy.

All of history is the story of God's loving mercy. Denial of this fact doesn't change the fact, it just leaves one out of the divine mercy. As a Christian, I pray for all who are so misled.

The God of the Christians and Jews are one and the same. The God of the muslims is aligned in opposition.
103 posted on 12/30/2002 9:57:15 AM PST by pgyanke
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To: Gargantua
I didn't accuse you of making moral judgements... in fact you seem quite incapable of them.
That's a statement in my favor. Thanks.
Such lies, by the way, are the last refuge of one who has no valid point.
Exactly what lies are you referring to?
They are also the tools of Satan, and you are his williing puppet when you so deceive.
I see that you are among those who like to empower a Ssatan.
104 posted on 12/30/2002 10:04:06 AM PST by Consort
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To: kinsman redeemer
The on/off HTML can be a very irritating feature, esp. when I write a lengthy post, then decide to code one small part, and then I must to go back to add in all of the line breaks. I usually don't bother with the HTML editor unless I use tables and lots of coding.

105 posted on 12/30/2002 10:06:48 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: chilepepper
That is where we part company. Believe what you want to believe... I do not believe what you believe nor want to. Do not try to sell me your religion: i will always suspect that you are doing it in order to make yourself feel superior or more comfortable in your own mind.

I will find my own path, thank you very much...

I do not sell anything. I will tell you what I know. And as to making myself feel "superior" or "comfortable", Christ does give me comfort, but in his comfort I have also gained discomfort. I realize now (which I did not before) the debth of my sins. I am comforted by the fact that he died for me due to his love for me, but I take no comfort that he had to do such for me, and that each time I sin, I contribute to the nails that were driven into his flesh.

"Superior"? I am a sinner, just as everyone else. The only difference is that I have the securities of His promise. I am saved by his grace. I am no better than anyone else, only better off.

As I previously stated, all Christians will have their own story as to how they found their way to Christ. You are seeking a path. Based upon your own statements, you have already rejected that Christ could be a valid path. I remember when I was younger I like to play the maze games. Usually, those mazes only had one way to reach the exit. If I were to decided that I would try every path except one, I would never reach the exit if that path I chose to deny was the only correct way out. All I can ask is that you don't totally rule Christ out. Keep that pathway at least open.

106 posted on 12/30/2002 10:09:05 AM PST by The Bard
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To: chilepepper
That magic something that makes you feel there is more to this existence than meets the eye...

Didn't I hear that as a definition of sex?

Seriously, let me make sure I understand you properly. Religion is a thing that makes you feel a certain way, and so if you feel that way then you have a valid, working religion. Is that correct?

Shalom.

107 posted on 12/30/2002 10:09:43 AM PST by ArGee
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To: SJackson
The God of Abraham.
108 posted on 12/30/2002 10:10:37 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: kinsman redeemer
Just to be sure, is that your real definition or your opportunity to poke fun at someone else's expense?

If the latter, I am truly interested in your real definition.

Shalom.

109 posted on 12/30/2002 10:10:56 AM PST by ArGee
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To: pgyanke
Outstanding theory.

Shalom.

110 posted on 12/30/2002 10:13:06 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Jimer
Your most obvious lie was to accuse me of something which I did not do.

Those who empower Satan are those who do his bidding. Satan is the father of all lies.

You seem to attribute much of the Christian doctrine to be a personality trait (or disorder) among the followers of Jesus Christ and his teachings in the Bible.

God tells us in the Bible of His rules for Christian living. Among those rules set forth by God is that, once we learn of His Word, we are to share it with those who have not His Word.

We aren't being "holier than thou" when we do this. Cristians know that they are among the worst sinners ever born, and humbly admit this to all.

We are merely doing what God, and His Son Jesus Christ, commanded us to do. You needn't listen to God. In fact it's quite clear that you refuse to. Just remember that we all make choices, and must live with the consequences of those choices.

If God is correct on this issue, and you are not, then one day you will stand in judgement before Him.

And when, on that day, you find that you have inherited eternity in Hell for your refusal to accept Jesus Christ and His gift of salvation, you will not be able to say, "But I never knew..."

For you have been told, and have reused God's Son, and God's Word. End of story.

111 posted on 12/30/2002 10:14:45 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Jimer
For you have been told, and have refused God's Son, and God's Word. End of story. (correction)
112 posted on 12/30/2002 10:18:47 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: ArGee
What is a religion?

Religion is mans attempt to have a relationship with some form of God or higher being.

Christianity is God's attempt to have a relationship and fellowship with Man

113 posted on 12/30/2002 10:20:34 AM PST by The Bard
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To: kinsman redeemer
A system of beliefs that does one (or a combination) of three things:

1. Excuses your behavior.

2. Ignores your behavior.

3. Promotes your behavior.

Ummm...not quite.

114 posted on 12/30/2002 10:22:16 AM PST by Nachum
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To: ppaul
I'm already on Jonathan's ping list-thanks
115 posted on 12/30/2002 10:23:17 AM PST by tutstar
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To: ArGee
To some, sex surely is a religion, and the serious sex like Tantra seeks religious transcendance.

In a sense, this transcendance is what people are really looking for in religion: a feeling which allows us to escape from the lonely prision of our own pitiful little bodies and re-integration with the magnificent cosmos from which we seem to emanate, to feel at-one-ment with it...

As for this feeling being a valid, working religion, we is all human, some perhaps more human than others ;)

In general, it seems to me that Love, whatever it is, is about this same feeling of re-integration, about becoming one with something or someone. When my little girl crawls into bed to be close to my wife, she moves her head just as close as she can to Mommy's head. She is, IMHO, truly trying to become one with her. Sex is the same, hugs are the same, even "solidarity" is similar, "let me walk in your shoes" allows me to become you, in a way.

116 posted on 12/30/2002 10:31:46 AM PST by chilepepper
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To: pgyanke
Very thoughtful and insightful, I truly love the way you write.

I think we are disagreeing only about a distinction with a rather small difference... that is to say, I firmly believe that when the Jews deny Christ as the prophesied Messiah, they deny the word of biblical God. Hence, the God to which they pray is by definition not the God of the Bible to whom Christians give all glory, honor, and praise.

The Jews had the Five books of the Law, the "Pentatuch," but when Jesus was born, He said "I make now a new Covenant in My Blood." This was the fulfillment, indeed, the most important part, of God's message to all people.

To deny that final chapter is to deny God.

Again, a distinction with a very small difference, but an all-telling one nonetheless.

117 posted on 12/30/2002 10:33:10 AM PST by Gargantua
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To: Gargantua
For you have been told, and have refused God's Son, and God's Word. End of story.

Beginning of story. You not only let organized religion delute your God-given spirituality, but you also let it dominate your thinking. I think you have passed the point of no return. It's an old story. Sorry.

118 posted on 12/30/2002 10:33:33 AM PST by Consort
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To: The Bard
Religion is mans attempt to have a relationship with some form of God or higher being.

Christianity is God's attempt to have a relationship and fellowship with Man.

I understand your attempt at a distinction. I was not looking for a way to distinguish between "religion" and "truth." I am just trying to find out what people mean when they talk about one's "religion."

Shalom.

119 posted on 12/30/2002 10:34:20 AM PST by ArGee
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To: Jimer
"delute" should be "dilute".
120 posted on 12/30/2002 10:35:03 AM PST by Consort
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