[grania]

I was looking at some back posts, and found this gem. What a coincidence...Senator Lott supports using the military on the border, and soon after he lacks support as Senate Majority Leader. Hmmmm........

[goody2shooz]

Ring-a-ping-ping!

So, what do you think? Did coming out for military might on the border seal Senator Lott's fate, particularly after making that dumb arsed statement at Senator Thurmond's birthday bash?

[umgud]

We have a border policy. It is called "status quo". Nobody has the guts to enforce our borders and nobody is going to open them up to all comers. So, we suffer this current onslaught which has detrimental consequences.

[grania]

Ping for Monday discussion.

[Stew Padasso]

"Most politicians run around worried about civil libertarians and being sued by the ACLU," Lott said on the Thursday night broadcast, according to a transcript of the interview posted on the Fox News website. "This is not only a porous border in terms of illegal aliens, it's also a porous border with regard to crime and drugs."

Lott will say anything depending on the situation or the questioner. He is a spineless politician.

[adakotab]

"..a conservative talk show on Fox.."

Are there any shows the media label as liberal?

[ckilmer]

Frist weak on immigration, groups say
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, December 21, 2002


Posted on 12/20/2002 10:16 PM PST by JohnHuang2


Tennessee Republican Sen. Bill Frist, who has declared his intention to run for Senate majority leader, has a weak record on immigration – a core conservative issue – according to groups and organizations that rate lawmakers on their positions.


Such groups have given Frist low marks on the issue of curbing illegal immigration, voting to limit legal immigration, immigrant amnesty and the implementation of a so-called "guest worker" program – where residents south of the border are given special permission to come into the U.S. to work.


Many who do come into the U.S. under such programs never leave, critics say.


Last month, Americans for Better Immigration gave Frist an overall grade of "D" over the span of his career.


"Sen. Frist voted to continue a chain migration system that has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today," said a profile summary analysis in November by Numbers USA, a group seeking immigration curbs.


Issues2000.org, meanwhile, said Frist had "no opinion" to this statement: "Immigration helps our economy – encourage it."


Frist has announced his intention to seek the Senate majority leader position. Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., announced earlier today that he would not retain the leadership post when the 108th Congress convenes next month.


The Mississippi Republican stepped down as Senate leader earlier today after taking fire from Republicans and Democrats for two weeks following his endorsement of Sen. Strom Thurmond's 1948 segregationist presidential campaign at the South Carolina senator's 100th birthday party.


But Frist, an ally of President Bush, may not be the first choice of most conservatives. Besides his weakness on immigration issues, WorldNetDaily reported Friday that the junior Tennessee senator championed the nomination by President Clinton of former Surgeon General David Satcher, a fervent supporter of unrestricted abortion and someone who actually performed abortions.


And, Frist once told National Public Radio that there are no absolute right, absolute wrong answers in medicine. During last year's stem-cell debate, the Tennessee Republican proposed using leftover embryos from in vitro fertilization clinics for scientific research. The Weekly Standard also noted that Frist believes there is a moral imperative to use one unsalvageable life to save another.


Frist, who has also voted in support of bills designed to allow foreign workers from Mexico into the U.S. temporarily, to assist farmers, "has not introduced, co-sponsored or spoken in favor of legislation in the 107th Congress that would reduce chain migration," said the NumbersUSA analysis.


And, "on the heels of the release of a GAO report finding no proof of a high-tech worker shortage and evidence of abuse in the H-1B program, Sen. Frist voted for this foreign-worker bill that contained no worker protections or anti-fraud measures," said the analysis.


The Tennessee Republican did, however, vote against extending an amnesty program to illegal immigrations in 2000 and for a border-security measure in 2002 requiring an entry-exit system in which every visa holder is checked with a biometric identifier upon entering or exiting the U.S.


In stepping aside, Lott thanked his supporters.


"In the interest of pursuing the best possible agenda for the future of our country, I will not seek to remain as majority leader of the United States Senate for the 108th Congress effective Jan. 6, 2003," he said.


"To all those who offered me their friendship, support and prayers, I will be eternally grateful. I will continue to serve the people of Mississippi in the United States Senate," he added.


Bush praised Lott for his decision.


"It was a very difficult decision Trent made on behalf of the American people," said the president in a statement. "Trent is a valued friend and a man I respect. I am pleased he will continue to serve our nation in the Senate and look forward to working with him on our agenda to make America safer, stronger and better."


Sen. Pete Dominici, R-N.M., threw his support to Frist and told Fox News he wanted to move up a Jan. 6 Republican conference meeting to debate the party's fate and affirm Frist as the party leader.


"I think in order to get on with things ? we ought to seriously consider by acclamation electing [Frist] as the new leader and that we do it sooner rather than later so we can get on with our work and complete our holidays in good spirits, knowing we have done the country and the Republican Party's business," he said.


Sens. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Mitch McConnell of Kentucky have also expressed an interest in becoming majority leader.


Virginia's two Republican senators, John Warner and George Allen, have also backed Frist.

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Lott backs use of troops to protect U.S. borders ^

Posted by OneBunnyLover
On 11/14/2002 11:29 PM EST with 5 comments

Denver Post ^ | November 13, 2002 | By Michael Riley
Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - The incoming majority leader of the Senate said that he now supports sending troops to protect U.S. borders, an indication the Republican Party may harden its stance on immigration after last week's sweep in midterm elections. Speaking last week on the "O'Reilly Factor," a conservative talk show on the Fox News Network, Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said the troops could not only shut down traffic of illegal immigrants but also help stop drug trafficking and cross-border crime. "Most politicians run around worried about civil libertarians and being sued by the ACLU," Lott said on the...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/789318/posts

Lott backs use of troops to protect U.S. borders ^

Posted by dirtboy
On 11/13/2002 9:08 PM EST with 17 comments

Denver Post ^ | 11/13/2002 | Michael Riley
Wednesday, November 13, 2002 - The incoming majority leader of the Senate said that he now supports sending troops to protect U.S. borders, an indication the Republican Party may harden its stance on immigration after last week's sweep in midterm elections. Speaking last week on the "O'Reilly Factor," a conservative talk show on the Fox News Network, Sen. Trent Lott, R-Miss., said the troops could not only shut down traffic of illegal immigrants but also help stop drug trafficking and cross-border crime. "Most politicians run around worried about civil libertarians and being sued by the ACLU," Lott said on the...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/788505/posts

Lott Bombshell: Put Troops on U.S. Borders ^

Posted by kattracks
On 11/08/2002 1:38 AM EST with 128 comments

NewsMax.com ^ | 11/08/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Soon-to-be Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, R-Miss., shook up the homeland security debate Thursday afternoon by saying his supported deploying the U.S. military to guard America's borders. Lott dropped the border bombshell during an interview with Fox News Channel host Bill O'Reilly on O'Reilly's nationally syndicated "Radio Factor" program. O'REILLY: Why not back up the Border Patrol with military, whether it's National Guard or straight troops - why not do it? LOTT: Well, I think we should do it. And I would be for.... O'REILLY: Do you really? LOTT: Oh, absolutely. O'REILLY: You're the first politician I've heard.... LOTT:...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784912/posts

Sen. Trent Lott on O'Reilly's radio show says he supports US Troops on our borders. ^

Posted by Babsig
On 11/07/2002 6:36 PM EST with 170 comments

O'Reilly Radio Factor | 11/7/02 | Bill O'Reilly
Did anyone else hear this? Trent Lott said he would support bring home US troops from Germany to guard our borders. But also said it would not be widely supported in congress.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/784706/posts

[America's Resolve]

Troops on the border is only part of the equation. The other part is repeal of the 1965 Immigration Act. It lets everyone who comes into this conuntry, illegally or not, AUTOMAGICALLY bring in their families. And everyone of those people can bring in THEIR families etc. It's NUTS!

Godspeed

[deport]

Congressman Charlie Rangel (D) NY is wanting to reinstitute the draft for military service. Maybe that would help increase the manpower to do such a thing.

[xrp]

"What the military is trained to do and what the border patrol is trained to do are very different missions," Kelly said. "You risk some terrible mistakes if you don't have people properly trained to enforce our immigration laws."

They why in the hell does our military perform "peacekeeping" duties in other countries?

Give me a break! They are trained to DEFEND this country. Bring them home to do THEIR JOBS. I bet the great American servicemen and women would much happier guarding the United States than they would guarding a bunch of Moslem Kosovars who use the shield of the NATO forces to destroy churches and murder Serbian Christians.

[PatrioticAmerican]

I support troops on the border, but only in a temporary capacity and only under authority and rule of the border patrol. With any luck, the two could cooperate and limit the flow of illegals. Alll this is useless, of course, unless we enforce the laws on the books that ban giving welfare to illegals, giving them jobs, and providing housing.

[SwordofTruth]

It's nice to know that there are some freepers who get it.

Lott was not only put on the sidelines because of his new stand on border security, but also because of his commitment to pass the ban on partial-birth abortion.

[Centurion2000]

I was looking at some back posts, and found this gem. What a coincidence...Senator Lott supports using the military on the border, and soon after he lacks support as Senate Majority Leader. Hmmmm........

Perhaps that FBI file hanging over his head is expired now ?

[GrandMoM]

bump

[Sabertooth]

I was looking at some back posts, and found this gem. What a coincidence...Senator Lott supports using the military on the border, and soon after he lacks support as Senate Majority Leader. Hmmmm........

You're looking too hard in the wrong direction.

This was just Trent Lott in pander mode. After this comment on O'Reilly, his office revealed that there was no "troops on the border" legislation in the works. Trent Lott was no hardliner on the borders or Illegal Aliens, hagiographers notwithstanding.

Did you ever hear of James "no mass deportations" Ziglar? He's the outgoing INS Chief. Wanna know how he got the job?

He's a childhood chum of Trent Lott. Pure political patronage.

Lott lost his job as Senate Majority Leader because he shot his mouth off one too many times sounding sympathetic to the Dixiecrats and the Old South. Even if he'd turned over a new leaf on Illegal Aliens, he was damaged goods, and could never have gotten anything effective done.

This is not an endorsement of Bill Frist's positions on Illegals. He'll have to be watched very closely.

[RnMomof7]

He didn't mean it..it was a political statement..nothing more,they are almost all on the same page and it ain't in the book we are reading

[Brian Allen]

<< [1] "What the military is trained to do and what the border patrol is trained to do are very different missions," Kelly said. [2] "You risk some terrible mistakes if you don't have Men [3] properly trained to enforce our immigration laws." >>

[1] Bullshit; [Go tell that to the USSR]

[2] Bullshit; [Go tell that to the North Koreans, East Germans and Iraqis]

[3] Train them!

Good find - Bump/Ping

[William Terrell]

"You risk some terrible mistakes if you don't have people properly trained to enforce our immigration laws."

We do have people "properly" trained to enforce immigration laws. They are not enforcing immigration laws. This issue needs to get to the courts. The people of any nation, no matter what form of government it has, have always had the right to protect their borders.