Posted on 12/29/2002 8:59:44 AM PST by scripter
The second of the three traditions of the Royal Navy proves otherwise.
Can you prove that it didn't happen?
--Criswell, Plan Nine From Outer Space
Sophistry in motion, I have to admit it, you are good.
Care to try again?
No need, Ive made my case quite handily, POLITICS + SCIENCE = NO SCIENCE.
All the sophistry in the world cant change that.
How pathetic are you, a six minute rebuttal after a response to a nearly three hour old post? What, did you just sit there hitting the refresh button until I posted? Like I said, justifying your perversion is a full time job and the author is right about homosexual activists (you), never leaving any discussion unchallenged.
Ummm isnt he the one who was photographed in a gay bar having a beer, perhaps you should ask his wife and kids how mutable it is? Guilt by association is NOT proof, if walking into a gay bar and having a drink makes you homosexual then Ill bet you probably, or someone you know, are one too. As far as
Michael Bussee, Gary Cooper, Wade Richards, etc., etc
are concerned, people fall off the wagon while in many therapies, why is this so astonishing to you? That FACT that theres any success rate PROVES that homosexuality can be cured.
Good job steve-o, the steve-minator, steve-kenstein
.Hey look I can do it too!
Are you saying that in the cases of mental illness, especially those which revolve around issues of identity, you have to have to have a "compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence" that supports an assertion that those conditions are pathological? You can't just observe the social and personal trauma associated with the condition?
All the sick and/or violent people in institutions because of their danger to themselves and others couldn't have been diagnosed and placed there without that "compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence"?
If a kleptomaniac steals from you every time he is in your house, do you need "compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence" to boot him out?
Can't you just note that their condition is sick when contrasted with entire mass of normal people, and how the structure of reality is obviously set up? You need astudy, the conclusions of which everyone must agree?
Incidently, how is homosexuality equivilent to hetrosexuality?
Not true; "protected class" status has also been afforded to religious minorities, and religion is certainly mutable.
Well, lets see.
So why dont you make this easy and just post the compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence that supports your assertion of sexual orientation as a pathology? Go ahead make your case.
You go right ahead mad gay, and Ill just keep asserting the DSM II which is compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence that specifically ANSWERS your question. Other versions of the DSM dont disprove, rebut or refute the compelling, valid, and peer-reviewed evidence that you ask for.
your minority opinion
Yes, a VOTE of science, hehe, 58% to 42% of over 10,000 psychiatrists is a minority, but it still doesnt constitute your laughable conclusion that it is SCIENCE.
And, no...I'm not a "faggot" as you so 'sweetly' put it. I am happily married woman but also bisexual. I think women are beautiful, at least most of them. Come on and get a clue. Why do you think "Ladies Home Journal" and those type of magazines always end up in the recycle bin first while "Cosmopolitan" with half dressed women on the cover and "Victoria's Secret" with women cuddling up next to each other and no men in it stay around in the magazine holders? If you can figure that one out you may be a genius.
And futhermore, may I say...in your dreams buddy, in your dreams.
I love this argument! So if pedophiles, bestials and others with similar paraphilic disorders dont have anxiety, poor psychosocial functioning or negative well-being then theyre not sick either? That sort of logic, or lack there of, is rather specious dont you think?
Hmmmm, you may be right. I've heard that many men with long prison sentences have had their heterosexuality cured after a few years behind prison walls.
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