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California: Solving budget with rule change - (it's that pesky rule about a two-thirds majority )
The Stockton Record ^ | Saturday, December 28, 2002 | Will Shuck Capitol Bureau Chief

Posted on 12/28/2002 12:46:36 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lawmaker: Tie spending plan to simple majority

By Will Shuck
Capitol Bureau Chief
Published Saturday, December 28, 2002

SACRAMENTO -- Maybe it's not spending or lack of taxes that makes it hard for California to balance a budget. Maybe it's that pesky rule about a two-thirds majority and the way it gives a handful of Republicans power to block the majority Democrats' spending plan.

Assemblyman John Longville thinks so. The Democrat from Rialto thinks voters should change the constitution to do away with the rule.

After all, he says, Arkansas and Rhode Island are the only other states with such a requirement.

In California, the two-thirds requirement means final say on the budget is in the hands of six Republicans in the Assembly and two in the Senate, since without that many GOP votes, Democrats can't meet the two-thirds threshold.

Longville has introduced a constitutional amendment that, if passed by the Legislature and approved by voters, would allow the majority party -- currently Democrats -- to enact a spending plan with a simple majority vote.

The irony about Longville's measure is that it requires a two-thirds vote to put it on the ballot. So unless a number of Republicans want to cut themselves out of the budget process, the measure appears dead on arrival.

Longville said that if he can't garner votes for the measure in the Legislature, he'll take another route, relying instead on a special-interest group to fund a signature drive, putting the initiative on the ballot without input from lawmakers.

"I want to give them the opportunity first before going outside," he said.

He said he has talked to some groups that might be interested in helping but declined to name them. Labor groups have supported the idea in the past.

Ray McNally, a Republican campaign consultant, said voters won't go for it.

"To most voters, making it easier for politicians to raise taxes is kind of like giving a loaded gun to a convicted felon."

McNally predicted that "a large number of Californians would go ballistic."

But Longville has his own way of tapping into voters' anti-politician leanings. His measure not only would make it easier for lawmakers to pass a budget, it would penalize them if they don't do it on time.

Longville's bill would withhold their pay and their daily expense allowances as long as the budget is late. This year, the Legislature was more than two months late adopting a budget, but instead of suffering for it, lawmakers actually were paid extra, since they receive a daily allowance each day they are in session.

Assemblywoman Barbara Matthews, D-Tracy, wouldn't commit to supporting the measure, but she said she likes the concept.

"I know that in theory, asking for two-thirds is well-intentioned," she said. "But just because we hold out for a two-thirds vote doesn't mean the budget gets better. It might make it worse. I mean, you're talking about a very small number of people being able to hold it up, and that doesn't mean they're right."

One thing she has known since she ran a grocery store that relied on state payments for filling Medi-Cal prescriptions: "When we were waiting for payment, and they couldn't get a budget passed, I thought, 'Why don't we make those bums forfeit their salaries?' "

Not an uncommon sentiment. Californians historically have tended to vote against their politicians. Not only have voters opted for term limits, they also have voted to take large portions of the budget, such as education, out of the Legislature's hands. As recently as November, Californians adopted a measure that will force lawmakers to fund after-school programs.

Dave McCuan, a political scientist at the California Maritime Academy who studies ballot measures, said it's a tough time for a measure such as Longville's.

"Voters are in a sour mood, as evidenced by voter turnout," he said. "That doesn't bode well."

But Longville's target of March 2004 will put the measure on a ballot with a high-profile race as Democrats select their standard-bearer to take on George Bush.

Even so, McCuan said, it may come down to which side puts up more money and delivers a clearer message.

The opposition message is obvious, McCuan predicted: " 'They're going to increase your taxes. You're going to lose benefits you really appreciate.' In a down economy, that's a very powerful message."

Or, as McNally put it: "Do you really trust these people enough to make it easier for them to raise your taxes?"

* To reach Capitol Bureau Chief Will Shuck, phone (916) 441-4078 or
e-mail sacto@recordnet.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: budgetcrisis; calgov2002; california; davis
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To: Riverman94610; Carry_Okie; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Grampa Dave; farmfriend; budwiesest
"Should it ever pass,however,the migration OUT of Cali would accelerate rapidly."

Am I the only one who understands that "migration OUT of Cali" is exactly what Davis and the Demonicrats are deliberately up to? They don't fear this!!! They desire it!!!

They feel that those of us that love it are "loving it to death!" They wish those of us in Non-Coastal CA, that vote against them and their liberal taxing/immigration/environmental dreams would just leave, already!!!

Even Sacramento County voted against Gray Davis!!!

21 posted on 12/28/2002 2:30:38 PM PST by SierraWasp
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Assemblyman John Longville thinks so. The Democrat from Rialto thinks voters should change the constitution to do away with the rule.

After all, he says, Arkansas and Rhode Island are the only other states with such a requirement.

Me thinks that Assemblyman John Longville (democRAT) is lying.

22 posted on 12/28/2002 3:13:29 PM PST by Frohickey
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To: Carry_Okie
Good point, however let's not forget the 'prison guards', their favorite contributing group. And I'd bet there are a whole bunch more that'd like to have Christmas come early.

"A republic, if you can keep it".

23 posted on 12/28/2002 4:54:37 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: SierraWasp
Thanks for the ping Sierra. And a bump to post #4 BSR.

Somebody change that kid's diaper. Careful though, inside you may find the best example of this democrat-induced budget mess.

24 posted on 12/28/2002 5:02:38 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Saundra Duffy; NormsRevenge
My first thought the other day was "We're gonna MOVE out of this state!"

My second thought tonight was "Please God help us!"

My third thought was "It takes a disaster (like 9/11 or a huge budget deficit like this) for Californians or ordinary people to see the light, so maybe this is good?"

I was reading tonight that in Germany (which I pinged Norm to), people are FED UP to the GILLS with Schroeder, even the GREENS don't want their taxes raised!

We're in the same boat here. Gray=Schroeder, and the swing voters next time won't be voting for him.

Anyways, that's my philosophy, things have to get dire in order for change to happen, and good change to happen.

God bless you all, and God help us Californians!

25 posted on 12/28/2002 11:47:05 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: drypowder
They'll never touch those. The Dems won't voluntarily dismantle their power bases except when their backs are to the wall and in the meantime they'll inflict pain on the public first.
26 posted on 12/29/2002 1:33:56 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I just moved from Calif. to Texas. While I was there I went to FREEREPUBLIC protests against Gray Davis. My sister, a democrat teacher in Calif., voted FOR Davis. I wonder how she likes his proposal to cut teacher pay?????
27 posted on 12/29/2002 6:03:17 AM PST by buffyt
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To: buffyt
I wonder how she likes his proposal to cut teacher pay?????

I think it is just a tactic to get their support for other actions!

28 posted on 12/29/2002 1:57:41 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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