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NFL Football Discussion Thread ~ Final Week of Regular Season
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Posted on 12/28/2002 10:07:35 AM PST by CounterCounterCulture

*** USELESS VANITY THREAD ***

And thus begins the official end to the season of 20 NFL teams as the 12 survivors jockey for their post-season slots this weekend.


AFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
  Miami          9  6 0 
  N.Y. Jets      8  7 0 
  New England    8  7 0  
  Buffalo        7  8 0 
 

AFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Pittsburgh     9  5 1 
  Cleveland      8  7 0 
  Baltimore      7  8 0 
  Cincinnati     2 13 0  
 

AFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tennessee     10  5 0 
  Indianapolis   9  6 0 
  Jacksonville   6  9 0 
  Houston        4 11 0 
 
AFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Oakland       10  5 0 
  Denver         8  7 0 
  Kansas City    8  7 0 
  San Diego      8  7 0 


NFC East  
  Team           W  L T 
yz-Philadelphia 12  3 0  
  N.Y. Giants    9  6 0 
  Washington     6  9 0 
  Dallas         5 10 0  
 

NFC North  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Green Bay     12  3 0
  Minnesota      5 10 0 
  Chicago        4 11 0 
  Detroit        3 12 0 
 

NFC South  
  Team           W  L T 
y-Tampa Bay     11  4 0  
  Atlanta        9  5 1 
  New Orleans    9  6 0  
  Carolina       6  9 0 
 

NFC West  
  Team           W  L T 
y-San Francisco 10  5 0 
  Seattle        6  9 0 
  St. Louis      6  9 0 
  Arizona        5 10 0  

x-clinched playoff berth y-clinched division title z-clinched first-round bye *-clinched homefield advantage

Official playoff scenarios

The following are the official playoff scenarios in each conference and division as determined by the NFL. Strength of victory is the season-ending winning percentage of all the opponents a team has defeated. Strength of victory can change after final week.

AFC EAST

Miami Dolphins: Can clinch AFC East division with win or tie.
To clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee loss AND Pittsburgh loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Oakland loss; 2) Win AND Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 3) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss AND Miami wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Tennessee.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New England Patriots: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie.
To clinch a playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss or tie.

New York Jets: Can clinch AFC East division: 1) Win AND Miami loss.
Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

AFC NORTH

Pittsburgh Steelers: Have clinched the AFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland loss.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win AND Tennessee loss; 2) Win AND Oakland loss.

Cleveland Browns: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver win AND N.Y. Jets win; 2) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Win AND Denver win AND Miami win or tie; 4) Win AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami win or tie; 5) Tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND Denver loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie AND Kansas City loss; 6) New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Baltimore loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

Baltimore Ravens: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss AND Kansas City loss.

AFC SOUTH

Tennessee Titans: Have clinched AFC South title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Oakland loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Oakland loss; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Miami win AND Oakland loss AND Tennessee wins on strength of victory tiebreaker over Miami and Oakland.
Can clinch a first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Miami loss AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Oakland loss AND Miami win AND Tennessee wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Oakland and Miami.

Indianapolis Colts: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) New England loss or tie; 3) N.Y. Jets win; 4) Cleveland loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie; 5) Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver win.

AFC WEST

OAKLAND Raiders: Have clinched AFC West title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Tennessee loss or tie; 3) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Miami loss; 4) Pittsburgh loss or tie AND Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Tie; 2) Miami loss or tie AND Pittsburgh loss or tie; 3) Miami loss or tie AND Tennessee loss; 4) Tennessee loss AND Oakland wins strength of victory tiebreaker over Tennessee and Miami.

Denver Broncos: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 2) Win AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win; 3) Tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss AND Kansas City loss or tie AND San Diego loss or tie.

Kansas City Chiefs: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND New England loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis win or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie; 3) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Indianapolis loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland win; 4) Tie AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie AND Denver loss AND San Diego loss or tie.

San Diego Chargers: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND New England loss or tie AND N.Y. Jets loss or tie AND Cleveland loss or tie; 2) Win AND Denver loss or tie AND Kansas City loss or tie AND Miami loss AND N.Y. Jets win AND Cleveland loss or tie; 3) Tie AND Denver loss AND Kansas City loss AND New England loss AND N.Y. Jets loss AND Cleveland loss.

NFC EAST

Philadelphia Eagles: Have clinched NFC East title and a first-round bye.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND Green Bay loss or tie; 3) Green Bay loss.

New York Giants: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win; 2) Tie AND New Orleans loss or tie; 3) New Orleans loss.

NFC NORTH

Green Bay Packers: Have clinched NFC North title.
Can clinch home-field advantage: 1) Win AND Philadelphia loss or tie; 2) Tie AND Philadelphia loss; Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win or tie; 2) Tampa Bay loss or tie.

NFC SOUTH

Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Have clinched NFC South title.
Can clinch first-round bye: 1) Win AND Green Bay loss.

Atlanta Falcons: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win or tie; 2) N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 3) New Orlean loss or tie.

New Orleans Saints: Can clinch playoff spot: 1) Win AND N.Y. Giants loss or tie; 2) Win AND Atlanta loss; 3) Tie AND N.Y. Giants loss.

NFC WEST

49ers: Have clinched NFC West title.

Source

The following teams have been officially eliminated from playoff contention:

Arizona, Buffalo, Carolina, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dallas, Detroit, Houston, Jacksonville, Minnesota, St. Louis, Seattle and Washington

WEEK 17 SCHEDULE

(all times Eastern Standard Time)

Saturday, Dec. 28 
Philadelphia at N.Y. Giants, 1:30 pm
Kansas City at Oakland, 5:00 pm 
Sunday, Dec. 29 
Atlanta at Cleveland, 1:00 pm
Baltimore at Pittsburgh, 1:00 pm 
Carolina at New Orleans, 1:00 pm
Cincinnati at Buffalo, 1:00 pm 
Dallas at Washington, 1:00 pm
Miami at New England, 1:00 pm 
Minnesota at Detroit, 1:00 pm
Tennessee at Houston, 1:00 pm 
Jacksonville at Indianapolis, 4:05 pm
Arizona at Denver, 4:15 pm 
Green Bay at N.Y. Jets, 4:15 pm
Seattle at San Diego, 4:15 pm 
Tampa Bay at Chicago, 8:30 pm  
Monday, Dec. 30 
San Francisco at St. Louis, 9:00 pm  

POSTSEASON


Wild-Card Weekend 
Saturday, Jan. 4
AFC or NFC game, 4:30 pm on ABC
AFC or NFC game, 8:00 pm on ABC 
Sunday, Jan. 5
AFC game, 1:00 pm on CBS
NFC game, 4:30 pm on FOX 
Divisional Playoffs 
Saturday, Jan. 11
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS
NFC game, 8:00 pm on FOX
Sunday, Jan. 12
NFC game, 1:00 pm on FOX
AFC game, 4:30 pm on CBS 
Conference Championships 
Sunday, Jan. 19
NFC Championship Game, 3:00 pm on FOX
AFC Championship Game, 6:30 pm on CBS 
Super Bowl XXXVII 
Sunday, Jan. 26
Qualcomm Stadium, San Diego, Calif.
6:00 pm on ABC 


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13 Jacksonville
20 Indianapolis

FINAL

Playoff implications – Colts are #5 seed, will play at AFC East winner next week (JETS)

461 posted on 12/29/2002 4:09:42 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Looks like Green Bay Packers are just about done.

I have always hated the Green Pay packers.

As a patriots fan, today...I hate them even more.

How any team can take the field against an inferior opponent and put on a performance like that is beyond me. Their defense looked as if they didn't give a damn whether they won or lost.

Yes...I hate them. But tonight, I do not even have an ounce of respect for them.

462 posted on 12/29/2002 4:11:44 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Hmmm...and why won't the Giants win the SB??
463 posted on 12/29/2002 4:13:32 PM PST by motzman
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The difference is the age between Favre and Pennington...
464 posted on 12/29/2002 4:13:44 PM PST by marajade
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To: freedumb2003
I've still haven't forgiven SF for not doing whatever they could to keep Rice...
465 posted on 12/29/2002 4:14:51 PM PST by marajade
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
BBWWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In losing, GB undoes a great injustice by keeping the luckiest team EVER out of the playoffs.

Out of curiousity, does anyone know if BOTH SB teams have ever failed to make the playoffs the following year before?
466 posted on 12/29/2002 4:14:52 PM PST by freedumb2003
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17 Green Bay
42 N.Y. Jets

FINAL

Playoff implications


07 Arizona
37 Denver

FINAL

Playoff implications - NONE

467 posted on 12/29/2002 4:15:06 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: freedumb2003
I *LOVE* the GB Packs

How can you love a team that puts on a broke dick dog performance like they did today? How can you have any respect for a team that would lie down the way they did simply because they already had the division sewed up?

They're a Pack alright. A pack of jackals with no pride.

468 posted on 12/29/2002 4:15:44 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: marajade
Go Rams/sarcasm
469 posted on 12/29/2002 4:16:08 PM PST by basque69
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To: Argh; hobbes1; dubyaismypresident
so the boys are having a nice football day, how nice for them. so everyone should be in a good mood for class tomorrow?
470 posted on 12/29/2002 4:16:45 PM PST by xsmommy
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Hey, saving the bullets for another day. Better than depending on luck.
471 posted on 12/29/2002 4:17:30 PM PST by freedumb2003
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To: CounterCounterCulture
hey... I heard Denver might be looking for a QB... Maybe Jake Plummer ought to call Shanahan...
472 posted on 12/29/2002 4:17:39 PM PST by marajade
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To: motzman
Well, because they won't make it that far? Just a glorified 8-8 team in my book. They have a few weeks to prove me wrong.
473 posted on 12/29/2002 4:17:53 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: freedumb2003
In losing, GB undoes a great injustice by keeping the luckiest team EVER out of the playoffs.

Since when is luck not a part of the game of football?

You are aware that the first thing that happens when the teams take the field is a coin toss...are you not?

And since when is justice a part of the game?

474 posted on 12/29/2002 4:19:44 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
>>Since when is luck not a part of the game of football?<<

Yes, but only NE uses it as a tactic!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Better luck next year. Tonight I will sleep the sleep of the just (who also has 2 of my favorite teams in the playoffs and the ones I hate the most out)


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
475 posted on 12/29/2002 4:24:20 PM PST by freedumb2003
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00 Tampa Bay
00 Chicago

8:30 start EST (5:30 PST)

Playoff implications
Tampa Bay had already clinched South division. Bucs cannot clinch home-field advantage
Tampa Bay clinches a first-round bye (#2 seed) with a win.
A Tampa Bay win means Green Bay will play next week hosting Atlanta. A loss makes Tampa play next week as #3 or #4 seed.

476 posted on 12/29/2002 4:24:54 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture
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To: freedumb2003
Better than depending on luck.

You are serious? Better to tuck your tail and run off the field to save your ass than give it your all and fight to the end for victory? Why wouldn't a team want to roll into the playoffs with a win and the taste of crushing their opponent fresh in their mouths?

True, the Pats have been lucky. But they have never tucked their tails and run. They have never stopped trying. The have always fought to the end, come what may.
And that gives them one thing the Packers will never, ever have.

PRIDE!

477 posted on 12/29/2002 4:26:02 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: freedumb2003
Yes, but only NE uses it as a tactic!

BS. Every team uses it. Otherwise there would be no such thing as an onside kick.

478 posted on 12/29/2002 4:27:12 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Glorified 8-8 team? Yeah right.

You're probably an Eagles fan, still in Shock(ey).

Giants and Jets are the most dangerous teams in the whole tournament as of now....

Tampa? Lame
Green Bay? eh, they got a shot
Eagles? they better not have to play the Giants again

SF-Atl--Not a chance

AFC? It's going to be the Raiders or the Jets.

As of today, SB NY Jets vs. NY Giants, Giants win 34-17.

just so you know, I called the Patriots win over the Lambs last year (and not as a lucky guess), I'm on a roll...get me some butter!
479 posted on 12/29/2002 4:27:30 PM PST by motzman
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To: CounterCounterCulture
CLEVELAND IS BACK IN THE PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All is again well in my tiny lil world.
480 posted on 12/29/2002 4:29:50 PM PST by TheStickman
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