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Farmers Threaten To Block US-Mexico Border Crossings [NAFTA]
Voice of America News ^ | Dec. 28, 2002 | AP, AFP and Reuters

Posted on 12/28/2002 7:10:41 AM PST by madfly

Angry Mexican farmers are threatening to block U.S.-Mexico border crossings on New Year's Day to protest the lifting of tariffs on agricultural products under free trade rules.

The farmers say they fear they will not be able to compete with U.S. and Canadian producers when tariffs are removed on January 1 as part of the North American Free Trade Agreement.

The farmers and their supporters are calling on the Mexican government to do more to protect the agricultural sector.

President Vicente Fox refuses to re-negotiate the free trade agreement, but he has pledged to help the farmers compete with the United States and Canada.

Some information for this report provided by AP, AFP and Reuters.



TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: borders; fox; freetrade; nafta; tariffs
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To: madfly
Here is the link for the immigrant_list

How can I look at all the lists??

161 posted on 12/28/2002 4:06:16 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: madfly
Never mind......:)
162 posted on 12/28/2002 4:07:41 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
1998? I can find some more current than that.

I'm sure they are fine men, but the Willow Springs PD is not a good source to be quoting.

Are you in the ozarks?

163 posted on 12/28/2002 4:09:35 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I'm sure they are fine men, but the Willow Springs PD is not a good source to be quoting.

At this point you're simply denying reality or playing games, one or the other.

You're just going to have to live with it, the vast majority of Americans want the borders closed and laws enforced and no argument you can make excusing unlawful behavior is going to change that. It also explains why the Libertarian party gets around 1% at election time. Face it, the platform is looney.

164 posted on 12/28/2002 4:16:21 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
Here you have published the entire proceedings of the NAFTA arbitration panel on the matter of cross border trucking

The following abbreviations (in alphabetical order) are used herein:

CS Canada's Submission GAO U.S. General Accounting Office FHWA U.S. Federal Highway Administration FMCSA U.S. Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration FMSCR U.S. Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations FTA Tratado de Libre Comercio Estados Unidos-Canadá (siglas en inglés) GATT General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade ICC U.S. Interstate Commerce Commission MFN Most-Favored-Nation MIS Mexico's Initial Submission MPHS Mexico's Post-Hearing Submission MRB Mexico's Reply Brief MSRB Mexico's Comments on the Request for a Scientific Review Board NAFTA The North American Free Trade Agreement SECOFI Mexico's Secretary of Commerce and Industry SRB Scientific Review Board TLCAN Tratado de Libre Comercio de América del Norte TR Transcript of the Hearing USCS United States' Counter-Submission USDOT U.S. Department of Transportation USPHS United States' Post-Hearing Submission USSS United States' Second Submission USTR United States' Trade Representative

WTO World Trade Organization

MEXICO can go to the WTO next and then the U.N has the final said

165 posted on 12/28/2002 4:21:28 PM PST by FreeSpeechZone
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To: FreeSpeechZone
You went around that last curve to fast and lost me.
166 posted on 12/28/2002 4:44:43 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
One thing you need to understand about the libertarians is that there are two groups of them.

One group are those that try to make it a stand alone party. Generally, this is the group you find at FR.

The second group is heavily involved on the philosophical and policy level. They are also to be found in the Republican Party either as closet cases running for and holding office as well as being appointed to key positions.

Do you want me to find that link on the history of opinion towards immigration and how to frame the polling questions?

167 posted on 12/28/2002 5:00:16 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Eventually it will come crashing down on the globalists and they'll be scratching their heads wondering what happened.

I think they know what's happening, they're in it for the money and they're getting plenty of it ---it's only those who believed everything they were told who will wonder what happened. Just like Salinas de Gortari ---he never once cared what happened to the average Mexican, he was taking millions of dollars out of the country and he left himself once his presidency was over ---all of them do that. All the ones benefitting plan to keep the wealth they're amassing ---they don't really much care what happens to the middle class.

168 posted on 12/28/2002 5:08:04 PM PST by FITZ
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To: Ben Ficklin
Not all libertarians believe in open borders like you do, but the platform of the party is in favor of the idea. And as long as it is, they will never win national elections.

Do you want me to find that link on the history of opinion towards immigration and how to frame the polling questions?

This is the latest poll released in the media. I consider it to be reliable. I am not interested in any skewed polls from the CATO Institute.

Poll: Public more opposed to immigration than leaders are

169 posted on 12/28/2002 5:08:07 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: FITZ
I think they know what's happening, they're in it for the money and they're getting plenty of it ---

It's all short-term gain only, they're going to make a killing off the backs of cheap labor for now, but if the biggest market in the world goes under, which is the American middle class, long-term the globalists can't expect much in the way of profits.

They probably don't care though like you say, they'll amass their fortune now and be done with it.

170 posted on 12/28/2002 5:24:58 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
>>Are you in the ozarks?<<


What's that suppose to mean? Look at a county by county map from the 2000 election and you will see how conservative this area of Missouri is.
171 posted on 12/28/2002 5:39:10 PM PST by Missouri
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To: Ben Ficklin
http://www.barriowarriors.net/


I wonder how many libertarians and capitalist are in this orgainization?
172 posted on 12/28/2002 5:55:04 PM PST by Missouri
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To: FreeSpeechZone
Denmark:
Yes indeedy, now THERE's a superpower` role model!
174 posted on 12/28/2002 5:57:38 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Ben Ficklin
When the trucking is in full force the dock jobs will pretty much follow..why pay Americans to unload ships when you can get Mexicans to do it for a dollar a day ..then put the goods in a Mexican truck and ship north for a few bucks..truckers first ...then dock workers...I think I see a trend
175 posted on 12/28/2002 6:35:44 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
It's all short-term gain only, they're going to make a killing off the backs of cheap labor for now, but if the biggest market in the world goes under, which is the American middle class, long-term the globalists can't expect much in the way of profits.

It will be too late...

176 posted on 12/28/2002 6:38:05 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
You obviously didn't follow the links in the Miami Herald article, otherwise you wouldn't have pointed me in that direction. The Herald has a link to the Worldview report but it is not deeplink and you'll never find the report from the front page. The Herald also has a link to the Center for Immigration Policy where you will find their backgrounder report as well as a deeplink to the Worldview report.

Let me make the following observations:

The CIS report refers to "large number of immigrants and refugees"

The CIS report and the Miami Herald completely omit that part found in the Worldview report about Muslims, Arabs, and the fear of terrorism. By extrapolating the weighted numbers in the Worldview report, you see that that the poll numbers change significantly.

All of these threads at FR are about mexicans, yet you point me to a manipulated CIS poll that leaves out the part about the the Muz. This proves my point.

The CIS report also left out the part in the Worldview report about the history of immigration opinion which I have brought up before. This proves my point.

With all that said, let me suggest that you examine the Worldview reports on subjects other than immigration. They are all concise and well written.

177 posted on 12/28/2002 7:12:50 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Missouri
I asked him about the Ozarks because in #160 he linked to the Willow Springs PD.
178 posted on 12/28/2002 7:16:33 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
>>I asked him about the Ozarks because in #160 he linked to the Willow Springs PD<<

Doesn't that link go to a California newspaper?
179 posted on 12/28/2002 7:40:41 PM PST by Missouri
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To: FITZ
Re: post #29, and a comment somewhere else in the thread about removing 5 million compesinos (sp?) from rural mexico. In the course of your research into this, have the displaced rural people leaving Mexico told you anything that indicates that this is what is really going on?
180 posted on 12/28/2002 7:42:07 PM PST by forester
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