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Pyongyang may have A-bomb in 30 days
The Times ^
| December 27, 2002
| Anthony Browne
Posted on 12/27/2002 4:13:58 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan; Poohbah; section9; Miss Marple; Dog; mwl1
We gotta take those reactors out. We simply have to.
Then, the diplomats at State will have to buy enough time to get the only platforms capable of taking out Yongbyong back into active service:
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:36:34 AM PST
by
hchutch
To: MadIvan
I see China's behind this. Korea is ejecting UN nuclear inspectors as a sign of disrespecting the UN. This way China gets across the point that it's not just the US that can denigrate and ignore the UN. Ammunition is given to the peaceniks who say it's all about oil. That's why we go after Iraq instead of Korea. On a strategic level this makes the US devote mental energy to Korea just when it's about to go to war with Iraq. Who knows what stunts N Korea will pull once we strike Iraq?
China's invisible hand. Who benefits from Korea's latest actions?
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:37:45 AM PST
by
dennisw
I've got to tell you ...I am only a few hundred miles south of Korea in Kumamoto , Japan ...And I am gettin' scared ...My daughter , 14 , keeps asking me if we are going to be bombed , and I assure her that they'd never bomb us here in the Kyushu hinterland ...but they might go for Sasebo and Nagasaki which aren't far away . Holy moley !
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:39:58 AM PST
by
sushiman
To: hchutch
Sorry, your best bet is GBU-28s. The 16-inch round does not have enough penetration to take down deep underground facilities.
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:42:24 AM PST
by
Poohbah
To: MadIvan
I think it's an unavoidable fact of life that we, meaning Britain and the USA, will have to confront North Korea, like we did together during the Korean War. I suggest that this time we blast them to hell. And sooner rather than later.
They remind me of a horrid little dwarf, standing in front of one's house, screaming obscenities and exposing themself and pissing on the flower beds every morning.
One's patience fades, and one day, one picks up a heavy object and does the right thing. Their clumsy attempts at blackmail and extortion, successful and encouraged by the last, disasterous Clinton administration, deliberately creating crises in order to be paid off, is the most recent lesson in the failure of appeasment to dictators. Especially looney ones.
To: Poohbah
The North Vietnamese lost a command post similarly built to Yongbyong to th New Jersey's 16" guns.
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:46:37 AM PST
by
hchutch
To: MadIvan
Strike first. If they respond by unleashing an artillery barrage on Seoul, nuke 'em unmercifully. We should've listened to the Founding Fathers about foreign entanglements.
To: hchutch
Probably shallower burial and a lot less concrete.
There's another problem: actually HITTING Yongbon. The 16-inch guns have a truly evil reuptation for putting shells anywhere but onto the target after the Navy blended ALL of the remaining powder into one common lot.
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:50:36 AM PST
by
Poohbah
To: Poohbah
We gotta figure something out then...
Believe me, this is getting uglier than Rosie O'Donnell's face REAL FAST.
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:54:09 AM PST
by
hchutch
To: MadIvan
"This "useless" reactor was the product of the agreement that Clinton made."
I thought that I read that this particular (plutonium breeder) reactor was a Russian gift from back before the USSR went out of business. Part of Clinton's deal was that we would build them 2 (much less useful for weapons)light water reactors in exchange for shutting down this reactor. I'm not sure whether we ever did build them. I'm far from a Clinton fan, but his agreement was aimed at getting rid of this reactor. The story the past few days is he had a plan to blow it up if necessary. Wonder what his supporters will say if the current President does just that? I hope we find out (although I expect they will howl in criticism).
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posted on
12/27/2002 5:55:35 AM PST
by
Stirner
To: MadIvan
Either he is a traitor or a hopeless incompetent, or both. But, wouldn't the combination of hopeless incompetence with treason be good? ;^)
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posted on
12/27/2002 6:02:56 AM PST
by
Grut
To: sushiman
Not to be too alarming, but you really should have an evacuation plan for you and your family in place, and have your most important valuables, passport, traveler's checks, etc. ready in some boxes.
Americans in Kuwait,Saudi Arabia and Israel are on such a standby contingency. I see the need for this spreading to Americans in the ROK and Japan.
At any rate, just do it, (if you haven't yet) but then don't dwell on it because the odds are so huge you wont' need it, but it will help to have it for peace of mind sake. If not military, register with the US Embassy so they can get any continency word to you such as advisories, orders, etc.
As per routing, you might consider going to a South East Asia country, such as Thailand, and then using cheap flights to get out of there through Europe, etc, through Okinawa, etc. as I would imagine Narita in Tokyo would be a mad house.
To: sushiman
My mom and I (when I was a little kid) had to get out of Japan in a few weeks notice. We sailed out of Yokohama on an MSTS ship called the Darby.
To: MadIvan
I bet we can get one there in 30 minutes if we tried!!
To: MadIvan
What is this? British Intelligence trying to start WW III? A few facts are missing from this article:
1. American "anything-for-a-buck" companies were trying to sell nuclear equipment to the North Koreans as recently as a year ago.
2. North Korea is responding to an oil embargo by the west.
3. If China is behind all this, why are Chinese prison-labor products flooding into American stores?
Yes, North Korea is a horribly backwards, sick Stalinist nation, but people had better get their facts straight before missiles start flying all over Asia.
To: lafayette76
3. If China is behind all this, why are Chinese prison-labor products flooding into American stores? The answer to this one is simple. China likes the Yankee cash and it undermines our economy.
To: TigersEye
Well, they're not getting into America without *someone's* blessing. At the very least, Washington D.C. is failing to protect Americans against economic warfare.
To: lafayette76
2. North Korea is responding to an oil embargo by the west.No oil embargo. We are no longer supplying them with free oil. We are not keeping them from buying their own oil. BIG DIFFERENCE.
To: sushiman
Wow....hang in there, sushi. Not to scare you more, but maybe you should think about taking your daughter and getting the hell out of there before things really begin to escalate. We'll all be thinking of you.......
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posted on
12/27/2002 11:27:16 AM PST
by
Morrigan
To: Lady Heron
You are correct. An oil company was getting enough American taxpayer money to provide "foreign aid" (i.e. extortion money) to the tune of 500,000 metric tons of fuel oil per year, which apparently was twice what their civilian economy could use. But given the state of their economy, the cut-off of oil is effectively an embargo, and I'm sure that's how they (the mentally ill North Korean regime) view things.
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