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Washington Post: CIA interrogations verging on
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Posted on 12/25/2002 10:39:28 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl
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To: Cinnamon Girl
I guess Bob Woodward is reading minds again.
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posted on
12/26/2002 9:24:19 AM PST
by
ampat
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To: Cinnamon Girl
[shocked, horrified, morally outraged] "Verging"? Why only "verging"!?!
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posted on
12/26/2002 10:15:39 AM PST
by
Stultis
To: Cinnamon Girl; hchutch; dighton; general_re
CIA interrogators have been using "stress and duress" techniques on captured enemies in Afghanistan that blur the line between legal and inhumane, the Washington Post reported on Thursday.Playing Barry Manilow's Copacabana 24 hours a day in the guy's cell is probably a violation of international covenants against torture.
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posted on
12/26/2002 10:17:28 AM PST
by
Poohbah
To: chnsmok
Nice letter. I would only add: "P.S. This article was written in part by Bob Woodward. He's a liar."
To: Mo1
So what does the Post think we should being doing .. talk nice to them in hopes they will be nice to us??
Bob Woodward helped to write this article. Bob Woodward wants to win "scoops" and kudos by inventing news. The very idea that it's news that our CIA boys are being tough in interrogation is laughable.
As to our boys leaving the room and having deniability about what happens when non-US interrogators interrogate -- why would we care? What's wrong with that? I kinda like the idea.
Bob Woodward never has and never will write one piece about all the human rights that are completely eliminated in the District of Columbia by a 30 percent homicide "closure" rate by our inept DC homicide detectives. Basically you can kill in the nation's capital and never get caught. There's a human rights story for you. The Post hasn't the slightest interest in that one due to its political spin.
To: angkor
This does not sound like torture to me. It does, however, sound like the ComPost is doing its best to gin-up a horrorshow where the most pedestrian of detention and restraint methods are being employed.
Very good analysis.
To: angkor
Then again, the story does carry Woodward's signature prose style, which I like to call "fictional reporting."
Applause, applause.
To: BlueLancer; Poohbah
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posted on
12/26/2002 10:26:29 AM PST
by
dighton
To: Petronius
On what grounds do we consider ourselves better than "them" if this highground is abandoned? On grounds of our behavior toward the innocent. They consider the innocent targets, we try to protect the innocent, ours and those caught between us and the Islamists.
Just in case you were wondering their combatants are not innocents.
And another question, why the hell are you fascinated by the splinter in your own eye and blind to the forests in those of your enemies? As an aside, this psychological complex is not new, it was extremely prevalent during the Cold War and very virulent during Vietnam.
To: Cinnamon Girl
Typical Washington Compost article of deceit.
The Compost has never been for the good people. For decades they will lie, fabricate and distort reality for their agendas to protect the bad guys.
To: Carolinamom
You posted,
Let's see: The article is based on UNNAMED sources. Whenever the maggot infested mediots of the Compost, NY Slimes, Slime, News Weak and LA Slimes want to creat a drug induced fantasy on print to advance their agenda, they use the old The article is based on UNNAMED sources.
Remember when their old drunk, Woodward, recently claimed to know what Condy Rice was thinking while she watch TV news while Woodward was laying drunk on the floor of his pad in his fictional book about President Bush?
To: Petronius
PEACENIK alert!
To: Petronius
you are delusional... go back to DU
To: Cinnamon Girl
Washington Post: CIA interrogations verging on inhumane
Washington Post: CIA Prisoners original intentions verging on inhumane.
The Washington Post fails to mention that if it wasn't for the United States, the prisoners more than likely would already be dead. Nice little omission on the Post's part.
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posted on
12/26/2002 11:40:25 AM PST
by
rs79bm
To: gregwest
gimme a friggin break!
To: All
CNN reports, for what it's worth:
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Responding to a Washington Post newspaper article that called interrogation by the CIA of Taliban and al Qaeda detainees a "brass-knuckled quest for information," U.S. officials said Thursday the report contained "many inaccuracies."
The officials declined to offer specifics, but stressed that the purpose of the interrogations is to try to prevent terrorist attacks that could kill hundreds or thousands of Americans.
The Thursday Washington Post article describes a secret CIA interrogation center at Bagram Air Base north of Kabul, Afghanistan, where it says "those who refuse to cooperate" are sometimes "kept standing for hours, in black hoods, or spray-painted goggles" and are at times "deprived of sleep, with a 24-hour bombardment of lights"-- techniques the newspaper says are known as "stress and duress."
The newspaper quoted an unnamed official who "has supervised the capture and transfer of accused terrorists" as saying "If you don't violate someone's human rights some of the time, you probably aren't doing your job."
In the past, U.S. officials have told CNN that prisoners at Bagram are under the control of the U.S. military, not the CIA.
The newspaper notes -- and officials have in the past confirmed to CNN -- that U.S. officials at times threaten prisoners that they will be handed over to a Mideast country friendly to the United States, such as Egypt, Jordan or Saudi Arabia -- nations that prisoners fear may torture them.
Officials in the past have also confirmed to CNN that the United States has handed some prisoners over to such nations.
The Post says some of the nations the prisoners are "rendered" to are documented by international human rights groups to have tortured prisoners.
In the past, U.S. officials have told CNN that while the CIA and the U.S. military do not torture prisoners, methods used "are not always genteel." A senior official said prisoners may "no longer know if it is day or night" and can be fed false information to try to get them to talk.
Officials say, however, that the U.S. view is that besides being illegal under international law, torture does not work, since it tends to produce unreliable information from prisoners who want the pain to stop.
The Post report says that, according to U.S. officials, "nearly 3,000 suspected al Qaeda members and their supporters have been detained worldwide" since the September 11 attacks, including about 625 at the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "Some officials estimated that fewer than 100 captives have been rendered to third countries," the Post reported.
To: angkor; Mo1; Cinnamon Girl
ping to post directly about: CNN reports US officials refute Washington Post story.
Don't you love it when the Post and CNN fight?
To: Cinnamon Girl
["The picture that emerges is of a brass-knuckled quest for information, often in concert with allies of dubious human rights reputation, in which the traditional lines between right and wrong, legal and inhumane, are evolving and blurred," the Post reported. ]
And the problem with this is?
Just like the terrorists blur the distinction between civilian and military targets. They deserve no rest or quarter. Hound them, hunt them day and night until they are all found, tortured for information, and then obliterated. That's all.
To: Humidston
Your new name for Carter can be taken two ways. That's hysterical.
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