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Joke empties plane Man ticketed and sent home as passengers scurry to resume travels
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel ^ | Dec. 24, 2002 | GINA BARTON

Posted on 12/25/2002 9:20:54 AM PST by gitmo

Joke empties plane
Man ticketed and sent home as passengers scurry to resume travels

As he boarded a commuter plane at the Dane County Regional Airport Tuesday morning, 33-year-old Steven M. Wiese of Cottage Grove peeked around the cockpit door and made a joke: "I hope you haven't been drinking."

The pilot didn't think it was funny. Neither did the other passengers.

"(The pilot) could see the other passengers' heads popping up like gophers coming out of their holes," said Lt. Michael Krembs of the Dane County Sheriff's Department. "The whole plane could hear. He said it really loud."

In an instant, Wiese's holiday travel plans were ruined. The flight was delayed. The other passengers had to re-book on other flights on Christmas Eve. And the pilots were checked to make sure they indeed had not been drinking.

Wiese and his wife have not flown since their honeymoon nine years ago. He had planned a trip to New York as a surprise Christmas gift for her.

"I shouldn't have said it. I regret saying it," Wiese said Tuesday afternoon. "I meant it as a joke. I had a smile on my face. But they took it the wrong way."

Atlantic Coast Airlines flight 6302, with 26 passengers aboard, was delayed. The crew reported to a medical facility to be tested for alcohol and drugs, in compliance with Federal Aviation Administration guidelines.

"Since 9-11, you can't joke about anything in an airport," Krembs said.

Wiese apologized to his fellow travelers as they got off the plane at the Madison airport and lined up at the ticket counter, hoping to be re-booked. Then he and his wife got in line, too.

"The deputies pulled them out of line and said, 'Oh, no. You're not going anywhere today,' " Krembs said.

The deputies then ticketed Wiese for disorderly conduct. He must pay a $225 fine.

That's not all.

The FBI and the U.S. attorney's office will discuss the incident after the holidays and decide whether the man should face the more serious charge of interfering with a flight crew, a federal felony that carries a maximum 20-year prison term, said Monica Shipley, FBI spokeswoman.

All of the other passengers were re-booked to their final destinations, said Rick Delisi, spokesman for Atlantic Coast Airlines. The members of the flight crew all tested negative for alcohol and other controlled substances. Their plane departed more than four hours late, at 2:05 p.m.

Delisi said the pilot followed the proper procedures.

"The crew is never meant to ask whether (people are) joking or what their motivations are," he said. ". . . People just don't realize the seriousness of what they're saying."

For Wiese, that realization came at a high price - and not just the cost of the non-refundable plane tickets. Instead of taking the trip, he and his wife now plan a quiet holiday at home trying to recover from the ordeal.

Wiese has weighed in his mind exactly what he should have done differently.

"I should have said, 'Merry Christmas.' "

A version of this story appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Dec. 25, 2002.

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The incident at the Dane County Regional Airport is not the first time a passenger has gotten into trouble for making a comment regarded as inappropriate.

A female passenger was kicked off an America West Airlines flight in San Francisco July 8 after she asked, "Have you checked your crew for sobriety?"

A Massachusetts man was sentenced to two years' probation and fined $500 this year when airlines workers asked if he was carrying anyone else's items and he said, "Like one of those ticking cardboard boxes?"

A Delaware man was sentenced to six months in prison in 1998 for forcing a jet to make an emergency landing after joking about having explosives in his carry-on bag.

A Miami woman was arrested in 1999 for swearing at flight attendants when she blocked a meal cart and was told to move.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airport; faa; joke; security
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To: Double Tap
I think this guy is close to being a candidate for the Darwin Award.
21 posted on 12/25/2002 10:24:37 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify
Why, because he made a joke. The whole point is, you are not treated like a human when it comes to supposed airline safety.

And the airlines and the government have thrown common sense out the window in a panic to make up for failed highjacker compliance policy of the past.

If you want to be treated like this, it is your business. I will avoid it if at all possible.

Just for the record, as stated in a previous thread, I have been through this new "screening" process.

Take off your shoes, unbuckle you belt, unbutton your pants, spread your arms, spread your legs, pull up your shirt. Yet I still could have gotten a knife or razor on board.

Its all window dressing.

22 posted on 12/25/2002 10:34:04 AM PST by Double Tap
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To: gitmo
I wonder if this has ever happened:

A man gets on a plane and shortly before takeoff he calmly calls out to the nearest flight attendant that he wants to get off the plane because, "I'm getting bad vibes about this flight."

I bet anything it's happened before.

25 posted on 12/25/2002 10:36:22 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: gitmo
This is why I get the feeling that the terrorists have already won - they have enticed the American Government to enslave its citizens. What more harm could they do?
26 posted on 12/25/2002 10:37:08 AM PST by bimbo
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To: gitmo
He should have had his nose shot off when he stuck it inside of the cockpit.
27 posted on 12/25/2002 10:39:48 AM PST by csvset
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To: EricOKC
Did I not say there was no justification for the reaction he got? Did I not say that?
28 posted on 12/25/2002 10:41:32 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: bimbo
What? Enslaved?
29 posted on 12/25/2002 10:42:57 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Double Tap
I wouldn't be stupid enough to make such a comment in the first place. When I get on a plane, the only person I'm talking to is God. I don't like flying and I just pray for my safe arrival at my destination. Goofing with the pilots isn't even on the radar screen. They have a job to do and don't need my stupid comments or input.
31 posted on 12/25/2002 10:45:43 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: EricOKC
I didn't say he deserved it! I said he should have kept his stupid joke to himself! There's a difference!
32 posted on 12/25/2002 10:46:44 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: EricOKC
You're getting waayy out there now, Eric. You have no idea what my position is on any of the issues you mentioned now, do you? When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
34 posted on 12/25/2002 10:49:32 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: vbmoneyspender
airline pilots certainly aren't helping their business acting like this.

Bingo. The pilot's call. Talk about a work slow down. Bet he has past/present issues with his employer.

35 posted on 12/25/2002 10:50:31 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: EricOKC
Yeah, Eric, I don't talk OUT LOUD to myself, so don't worry about me, dear.
37 posted on 12/25/2002 10:53:19 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: EricOKC
You are free to believe anything you want about me, Eric. Sticks and stones, rubber and glue. I have no problem with people who don't know me judging me and calling me names. It just makes them look kinda silly. Statist is certainly not the nastiest thing I've ever been called. Weirdest, maybe.
40 posted on 12/25/2002 10:58:29 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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