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FBI Warns of New Shoe Bomb Attacks
USA Today / AP ^ | 12/24/2002 | AP Staff

Posted on 12/24/2002 8:46:31 AM PST by ex-Texan

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Fred Mertz
[He faces between 60 years and life in prison when sentenced Jan. 8.]

Is that all he faces?

I agree, this sentence is unjust. He should be executed, as should all terrorists who are convicted of attemted (or successful) mass murder. IMO, we should create a mideval dungeoun where these perps would be chained to a post and left to starve to death. Leave the bodies there as decorations for the next perp to enjoy.

PS: Merry Christmas, Fred. MTR (Tom) :O)

21 posted on 12/24/2002 10:27:31 AM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"Our government is getting better at preventing terrorism, but if it actually happens, they'll do anything possible to cover it up."

Spreading "government coverup" rumors serves no constructive purpose at any time, much less during these perilous times for this country and all Americans. You might find the following of interest:

[quote][emphasis added] We kicked out the anti-Semites, the racists, the bigots, the tin-foil hat conspiracy nuts, the America did it crowd, the cowardly anti-war America haters, the America got what she deserves crowd, the DU disruptors, the perverts, the religion bashers, the Bush is a Nazi crowd, the Bush did it crowd, the it's all about oil crowd, the I'd rather support Clintonites crowd, the foul mouthed bashers, the smash mouth bashers, the just can't seem to get along with anyone crowd, the I hate everyone crowd, the naysayers, the doom and gloom sky is falling crowd, the woe is me we're all doomed crowd, etc, etc, etc. [end quote] 35 posted on 11/21/2002 0:58 AM PST by Jim Robinson Source.

22 posted on 12/24/2002 10:27:55 AM PST by Asmodeus
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To: Glenn
Do your damn job, TSA!"

A classic case of damned if they do, damned if they don't. Have you seen the 1000+ thread about how intrusive the airport searches can be? Most on this board side with the passengers who through a hissy when they were screened.

23 posted on 12/24/2002 10:44:39 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Trust but Verify
Most on this board side with the passengers who through a hissy when they were screened.

And I was/am one of the most vocal. We're dumping billions of dollars into a system that is nothing more than window dressing. This "warning" from the FBI sort of says that. If they had faith in the system, what need would there be for this sort of public relations press release?

Just remember, this is the same group of people who take more than 15% of your annual salary for Social Security and have managed to mismanage it into near oblivion.

If the people of the TSA truly serve a purpose, then let them serve it. Personally, I think it's just another Charlie Foxtrot.

24 posted on 12/24/2002 10:50:07 AM PST by Glenn
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To: Trust but Verify
"A classic case of damned if they do, damned if they don't. Have you seen the 1000+ thread about how intrusive the airport searches can be? Most on this board side with the passengers who through a hissy when they were screened.

I think most on here would not throw a "Hissy fit" if the TSA started checking the people they should be checking instead of lil old ladies and 6 year old white girls. Nothing like getting searched and seeing a Middle eastern type just walk right through without evan a glance by the security workers. The death knell of the airline industry has already started. And that POS Mineta is one of the main factors.

25 posted on 12/24/2002 10:54:50 AM PST by JustAnAmerican
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To: ex-Texan
This past August our DIL, our 3 year old Grand Daughter and her 18 month old brother, Bubba Bam Bam were flying back after a visit on the East Coast.

They made our Grand Daughter take off her pink sandals her Grandmother had bought as part of a travel outfit. After the inspection she threw the shoes back at the inspector and scored two perfect strikes when the inspector handed back her shoes after going through the xray monitor.

Our DIL tried to get them to inspect the newly filled Pampers that Bubba Bam Bam was wearing. They wisely refused to search him. Our DIL said that he filled the Pampers do to his concern of his sister being checked out. They should have to check him and change him.
26 posted on 12/24/2002 10:58:25 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: ex-Texan
I don't suppose a Bruno Mali slip-on....? Oh yeah, OJ said he'd never own an ugli pair of shoes like that!
27 posted on 12/24/2002 11:00:30 AM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Not to mention TWA800, which simply did NOT blow up as a result of "extra fumes and shorted wires" in the center fuel tank.

Not with the holes THAT one had in it, anyway...
28 posted on 12/24/2002 11:04:29 AM PST by ninenot
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To: Glenn
In order for them to be 100% sure another shoe bomb could not happen, they would have to examine the shoes of every passenger. Something tells me there'd be a whole lot of pissing and moaning going on.....
29 posted on 12/24/2002 11:16:26 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Asmodeus
If a Terr did knock a plane down, you and your superiors would be the first ones saying that it wasn't a terrorist. We're all perfectly safe, except if the fuel tank miraculously implodes or the tail falls off by itself when the engines came off first...

See that you're still not into answering direct questions and still your same old insulting self.
Glad to see some things never change.
Merry Christmas, Happy New Years.
And stay away from the obviously Islamic nuts. I expect to see you back here bright and early next year.
30 posted on 12/24/2002 11:17:46 AM PST by Darksheare
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To: ex-Texan
TRANSLATION:
Our authorities suspect that shoe bombers have already brought down airplanes. Crashes where the cause could not be pinpointed.
31 posted on 12/24/2002 11:22:00 AM PST by dennisw
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To: George W. Bush
Who do you think you are, Don Adams?
32 posted on 12/24/2002 12:28:13 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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35 posted on 12/24/2002 2:34:08 PM PST by Monty22
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To: ninenot
"Not to mention TWA800, which simply did NOT blow up as a result of "extra fumes and shorted wires" in the center fuel tank. Not with the holes THAT one had in it, anyway."

TEN expert metallurgists found no physical evidence of missile(s) damage or bomb damage in the wreckage of Flight 800, four from NTSB, three from Boeing, two from the FBI Laboratory, and one scientist consultant. Source.

Facts are dermined by evidence - NOT suspicions, speculations, allegations or accusations.

See also Reply #22 above.

36 posted on 12/24/2002 3:57:53 PM PST by Asmodeus
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
I read on a thread here that EgyptAir900 was a mass assasination of 30 or so U.S.-trained Egyptian officers. THAT seems to have gone straight into the memory hole. Plus there was speculation that the pilot suicide story was itself a coverup - another missile attack?
37 posted on 12/24/2002 5:12:16 PM PST by eno_
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To: Monty22
I was hoping for a BBQ joint. Pig roast in Mecca!
38 posted on 12/24/2002 5:15:43 PM PST by eno_
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To: Asmodeus
And then you seem to forget, that originally Boeing refused to sign off on the claims by the NTSB, (oops, you forgot I guess) the large team of truly independent experts who do not have an axe to grind either way (either denying bombs/missiles or pushing conspiracies), the 300 + ...many of them highly qualified eyewitnesses, and the clear pattern of oppression by the FBI etc to prevent the obvious ALTERNATIVE view from being taken seriously. Hence, you can't be taken seriously on this subject since you are perversely avoiding clear and present 'danger' evidence of a missile attack and coverup. So what is at risk to you guys?

Obviously you black-suiters think the airline industry would tank if it was known that Al-Quaeda/Iraqi operatives are launching SAM-7s and Stingers right in our own country just down range of the airports. Well guess what, boys. Most Americans already suspect it...and to a higher degree than you appear to know. They are just fatalistically risking it. The modus operandi is already a public given...see the Africa attack. And they are rightly suspicious of the NTSB nowadays post-Clinton. And GWB has only perpetuated the politicization and conversion of the agency into a flagrant propaganda bureau to mouth the mantra " All is well. All is well. All is well. " When it isn't. We are at war, and we are not a terribly hardened society. We have 20-50,000 possible Al-Quaeda in our midst, just awaiting activation. And we are too politically correct to do anything serious about it...and even now the Muslims and ACLU are suing the INS and Ashcroft for the paltry few steps he has taken to pick up a few hundred of the illegals from the suspect countries... You black-suiters time would be better spent helping Ashcroft do that than your continued political damage-control ops on the web. In other words, GET A REAL JOB, spooks. Do your country a real service. Stop washing the dirty laundry of national security traitors. The truth here is the only thing which will reverse the continued slide to the left in our nation...and an eventual Hillary! presidency...

40 posted on 12/24/2002 5:46:38 PM PST by Paul Ross
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