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'DREADED' WEED WAR
New York Post ^
| 12/23/02
| LARRY CELONA and TODD VENEZIA
Posted on 12/23/2002 12:49:28 AM PST by kattracks
Edited on 05/26/2004 5:10:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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posted on
12/23/2002 12:49:28 AM PST
by
kattracks
To: kattracks
Isn't illegal immigration grand?
To: sheik yerbouty
No
To: kattracks
The effects of the recession are felt everywhere.
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posted on
12/23/2002 3:59:35 AM PST
by
raybbr
To: kattracks
Criminal gangs get their incentive through prohibition. Can you imagine anyone going to "war" over liquor distribution today? Same thing with pot.
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posted on
12/23/2002 4:40:06 AM PST
by
glorgau
To: kattracks
Good thing pot is illegal. If it were legal these gangs would be using much heavier weapons, like beer distributors do in their incredibly bloody gang wars.
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posted on
12/23/2002 4:59:36 AM PST
by
eno_
To: glorgau
Great minds think alike.
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posted on
12/23/2002 5:00:14 AM PST
by
eno_
To: kattracks
The John Shop Crew? Doesn't exactly strike fear into the heart, does it?
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posted on
12/23/2002 5:02:09 AM PST
by
Wolfie
To: kattracks
12 murders in 12 months in the NY Metro area? Not statistically significant.
To: kattracks
1) Legalize it
2.) Tax it
3.) Then ban it from New York city bars and restaurants;-)
People who want to smoke dope will smoke dope. The importation of it will continue to fuel corruption and bribery and these insane homicidal gang wars. I am simply no longer willing to let my tax dollars fund a pointless war on some drugs that makes the political management of the Vietnam War by a bunch of empty suits seem masterful by comparison.
To: *Wod_list
To: muir_redwoods
What is "it"? Marijuana? Legalizing marijuana will solve the problem?
Haven't really thought this through, have you?
To: robertpaulsen
Sounds like he has. What's your excuse?
To: robertpaulsen
I see no harm in "2 plants" in every grow room with the same "moderate consumption ethics" as we have for Alcohol today.
To: robertpaulsen
I've thought it through, Robert, and filling the prisons with people who like vegertables I don't personnally care for doesn't seem to be the solution. There are other things my tax dollars could be used for rather than to finance the arrest and prosecution of people who, on the whole, are a lot less offensive than many drinkers.
The business is sordid but is a simple result of prohibition. If we didn't artificially boost the profit potential in marijuana by outlawing it people wouldn't be shooting each other over market rights.
By the way, I don't see it as my mission or my government's mission to "solve" what is essentially a personal problem for smokers of any kind. They are free to choose or should be.
To: muir_redwoods
The Bloodstains, Pelpa and the John Shop Crew will sell any drug you choose not to legalize. We are fighting a war on drugs, not a war on marijuana.
The criminals in prison for drug related offenses are there for dealing drugs, not using them. Don't get too worked up for these scumbags who would sell any drug to any person of any age just to make a buck.
If you're in favor of legalizing all drugs (including prescription drugs) in order to take away the profit from these gangs, that's your prerogative. I don't agree.
To: robertpaulsen
What is "it"? Marijuana? Legalizing marijuana will solve the problem? What about downgrading the criminal status of marijuana to misdemeanor, punishable by moderate fines?
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posted on
12/24/2002 7:23:50 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: A. Pole
For "personal use" amounts, fine. With an escallation in the fine for second and third offenses. Maybe mandatory drug counselling (not that it works, just to show the user that help is available when he is ready for it). Possible jail thereafter.
Similar to DUI, except no driving is involved.
To: robertpaulsen
For "personal use" amounts, fine. With an escallation in the fine for second and third offenses. Maybe mandatory drug counselling (not that it works, just to show the user that help is available when he is ready for it). Possible jail thereafter. I would just keep the same moderate fine at each offence. The purpose would be to stigmatise the use or possesion as illegal and force the offenders to stay "in the closet". I think that the legal pressure should be a notch higher to the one applied to parking car in the handicapped space or jaywalking. I think that this would calibrate the response to the OPTIMUM level.
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posted on
12/24/2002 8:02:24 AM PST
by
A. Pole
To: Wolfie
The John Shop Crew. I wonder if they know Johnny Too Bad?
Johnny Too Bad
Walking down the road
With a pistol in your waist
Johnny you`re too bad
Walking down the road
With a ratchet in your waist
Johhny you`re too bad
(Chorus)
You`re just robbin` and stabbin`
And lootin` and shooting`
You`re too bad (repeat)
One of these day`s
When you hear a voice say come,
Where you gonna run to?
One of these day`s
When you hear a voice say come,
where you gonna run to?
(Chorus)
You`re gonna run to the rock
For rescue, there`ll be no rock
You`re gonna run to the rock
For rescue, there`ll be no rock
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posted on
12/24/2002 8:03:37 AM PST
by
csvset
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