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Thornhill asserts that time is universal and not tied to space. Hawkings conceptualization of black holes would appear to contradict this assertion in that the gravity well of a black hole sucks not only matter into its well but space and time are warped deferentially from the Schwartzchild radius inward, in an eddy or swirling fashion. Let's take a closer look at another thought regarding the phenomena, as arising from an 'electric universe' that confroms to temporal flux of a fashion.

From the above exchange: The notion that 'c' was considerably faster in the past has appeal to both cosmologists and creationists. Both camps have severe difficulties in explaining the observed universe, even with their vastly different time frames, unless things happened much faster initially. Cosmologists would like to see a near infinite speed of light immediately following the big bang and creationists about 10^11 times 'c'. Both are misled by their misunderstanding of the creation myths. ...

Proof that the cosmologists are mistaken both in their speculations about light-speed and the big bang hypothesis comes from the very source referred to in the above report -- the light from a quasar. The above-quoted article says that the quasar is 10 billion light years distant. That is based on the most peculiar big bang theory that the volume of the universe is increasing. It follows the observation that faint objects have their spectrum shifted towards the red. The discoverer of this phenomenon, Edwin Hubble, was careful to not attribute this 'redshift' to the Doppler effect of the velocity of recession of the object, but theorists were not so circumspect. The redshift -- velocity - distance equation quickly became another of the many dogmatic assumptions of cosmology.
Is it possible that within the event horizon of a black hole, the speed of light increases exponentially, eventually ranging beyond the temporal connection of spcatime, resulting in the 'spitting out' of a new galaxy source and that event occurs beyond our temporal limits in such a way that a new reduction of 'lightspeed' and time limits results in a quasar appearing in the neighborhood of a massive galaxy with a massive black hole at its core but along a track at 90 degrees to the 'plane' of the parent galaxy, and thus along the polar axis of the black hole?

269 posted on 12/25/2002 10:05:29 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: RadioAstronomer; Physicist; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
Yes, it's late back East, here, but while the family watches a DVD of Spy Game I would fancy a bit of outlandish discussion. Any takers?... Are the clusters of galaxies observed actually seeded galaxies formed by the above admittedly strange concept?
270 posted on 12/25/2002 10:09:55 PM PST by MHGinTN
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Except the observed possible variation in the speed of light is on the order of a few percent, not 1011. An entire thread occured on this very subject in the recent past. Also, your article implies that all cosmologists wish the speed of light to have been higher in the past (coincidentally agreeing with creationists). However, most cosmologists (judging from the stuff they publish) are quite happy with a constant c; only a very few of them seem at all dissatisfied.
271 posted on 12/26/2002 4:48:19 AM PST by Junior
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