[Mudboy Slim]

"I'm talking about John Q. Public!"

I say yer sellin' JQP short, my FRiend...the Sheeple have actually been believing what the Networks have been lying to them about...for 50+ years!! Sure, they're IGNORANT as Rocks, but just 'cuz nobody's alerted them to the TRUTH!!! If you assume they'll NEVER learn, you might as well just bow out of this CounterCounterCulture War fer the Hearts and Minds of the American Sheeple, dude...yer pessimism is part of the problem.

FReegards...MUD

[poet]

"dude...yer pessimism is part of the problem."

You call it pessimism, I call it reality. "War" is a great diversion. I see an erosion of our freedoms by someone you people trust, while I don't trust him. He's just another opportunistic politicain, nothing more, nothing less. He swore on a Bible to uphold the Constitution and has violated that sworn oath on three occasions as have the "rubber stamps" in both houses of congress. The fact that the "right people" DID NOT place an expiration date on section 802 is very telling. Don't you find it just a bit curious that most of the obscenity mis-named the patriot act has a four year lifespan and this section doen not?

If clinton has proposed these laws, you would have jumped all over him and rightly so.

FReegards