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Coffee,Tea,or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wifes Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell attheAirport?
lewrockwell.com ^ | 12/18/2002 | Nicholas Monahan

Posted on 12/21/2002 11:33:05 AM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham

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Coffee, Tea, or Should We Feel Your Pregnant Wife's Breasts Before Throwing You in a Cell at the Airport and Then Lying About Why We Put You There?

1 posted on 12/21/2002 11:33:05 AM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
It's a rather inconclusive tale....
2 posted on 12/21/2002 11:39:59 AM PST by Cogadh na Sith
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
One day, not too far off, the good people of this country are going to stand up and say they've had enough. We allow millions of illegal aliens in this country because we won't enforce the border, and we allow idiots to harass innocent people at airports, when they should be doing something useful like guarding the border. Truly this is Orwell's 1984.
3 posted on 12/21/2002 11:45:30 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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It looks like this guy went off from the get go and then the security people made it worse?
4 posted on 12/21/2002 11:46:42 AM PST by america-rules
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham; Semaphore Heathcliffe
Bump for federally-unionizing the aitport screener goons.

"I feel so much safer now, all that liberty was getting me down."

(I told you your quote had universal appeal..)

5 posted on 12/21/2002 11:48:52 AM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
There was a guy on subguns.com BBS telling his story abot how he returned from Europe a few days ago, and the US Customs agent pulled him to the side and asked the following questions:

1. How much money have you got on you?

2. Was your trip to Europe business or pleasure?

3. Do you own any guns?

6 posted on 12/21/2002 11:49:25 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
What a disturbing tale.

Luckily, something like this could never happen to me. (/sarcasm)
7 posted on 12/21/2002 11:50:34 AM PST by motzman
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To: america-rules
You're kidding, right?
8 posted on 12/21/2002 11:54:57 AM PST by Movemout
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To: america-rules
Have you flown lately? "Security People"? These are people that, by and large couldn't get a job at starbucks.
9 posted on 12/21/2002 12:01:53 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
There is now a division between the citizenry and the state. When that state is used as a tool against me, there is no longer any reason why I should owe any allegiance to that state.

And that’s the first thing that child of ours is going to learn.

I flew to Vegas last month from Detroit. At the security screening area were some xeroxed signs warning that "aggressive" language was a crime and would be grounds for arrest. Presumably even raising your voice is a felony now. The state must be protected against the citizenry at all costs.

I think the writer now realizes what I have for a long time now... the state is your enemy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Read A.J. Nock's Our Enemy The State. I've been teaching my son that for a while now.

I owe no allegiance to the Feds, in fact the only thing I do owe them is my utter contempt.

10 posted on 12/21/2002 12:03:35 PM PST by AK2KX
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To: america-rules
It looks like this guy went off from the get go and then the security people made it worse?

Flown lately?

11 posted on 12/21/2002 12:03:39 PM PST by Glenn
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Sounds like a fruitcake to me. How would acupuncture, herbs or moxibustion (whatever that is) assist in the turning of a breech presentation baby? Matter of fact, how would an emotional upset to the mother cause a baby to go from head-first to feet-first?

I can't take the rest of the tale seriously.

12 posted on 12/21/2002 12:04:32 PM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
There are two sides to every story eh.... The truth is in between somewhere, I am sure.

His whole story describes his own trauma, and his wife's ability to deal with it more calmly than he did. The punch-line should not have been that his wife's pregnancy was breech. He lost me.
13 posted on 12/21/2002 12:06:23 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Trust but Verify
She shed a few tears, and then help clean up his mess. The whole story was about his own emotional upset more than his wife's.
14 posted on 12/21/2002 12:07:55 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
"The truth is in the middle and it's all about his emotional upset"

?

Oh good.

And to think, I was outraged by it. Glad it's nothing to worry about.

Thanks for clearing that up.

15 posted on 12/21/2002 12:11:02 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
I'm really in favor of having cameras in all public places, especially where law enforcement or security is involved. And no destroying the tape allowed.

Keep a video camera in your home just in case the police or child-savers stop by. I sure wish we had a recording of our encounters.

16 posted on 12/21/2002 12:11:16 PM PST by eccentric
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To: Republic of Texas
One day, not too far off, the good people of this country are going to stand up and say they've had enough.

There's no one to say it to. Except each other, maybe. No one that will listen.

17 posted on 12/21/2002 12:11:30 PM PST by templar
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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
No matter what you think of the guys story....it clearly seems to me like these airport bozos need a protocol in searching and 'patting down' pregnant women.

I cannot think of a man alive who would not be upset if his pregnant wife was crying saying an airport employee touched her breasts and was made to lift her clothing in front of a crowd.

18 posted on 12/21/2002 12:13:30 PM PST by BossLady
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Keep a video camera in your home just in case the police or child-savers stop by.

Ever notice how most public 'servants' react to a camcorder or tape recorder in these situations? It's impressive: like a vampire recoiling from a cross.

19 posted on 12/21/2002 12:13:54 PM PST by templar
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To: AK2KX
Read A.J. Nock's Our Enemy The State.

I read Nock as well as Oppenheimer's The State many years ago.

There is now a division between the citizenry and the state. When that state is used as a tool against me, there is no longer any reason why I should owe any allegiance to that state.

This quote from Doug Casey was posted on another web site in response to this story--as sort of a "conclusion" I suppose that some here are unable to deduce:

Americans have often wondered where the Germans were able to recruit all the people who staffed the Gestapo and the SS. The fact is, however, that sociopaths, sociopath sympathizers, the weak-kneed, and the easily-led form a standard distribution across all societies, in all times. We have just as many in America now as the Germans did in the 1930s. Maybe even more, since Americans have been programmed by the public schools and the mass media for several generations more than were the Germans of that time. Your local TIPS snitch might report that you "fail to display sufficient respect for authority." Or maybe he'll write down that you "laugh upon hearing the phrase 'homeland security'." Think I'm kidding?

The popular response to the TIPS program is proof that the time is now right for the creepy-crawlies to emerge from under their rocks. That neighbor who's got a kid, and a dog, and plays ball of a Saturday may have exactly the same dark side as the German who always politely shopped at a Jewish deli, but then broke its windows when Kristalnacht came.

One scary and hysterical government measure that hasn't been shelved was the activation of 300 Army National Guard tank battalions as part of a homeland defense force, as part of a strategy calling for the domestic use of U.S. military forces. Reuters reported that, in his July 20 speech, Bush said that tank battalions "will serve in the homeland defense role within the United States." I'd like to know how, exactly, tanks will be employed within the U.S.

The reactivity, and utter lack of principle, of the Baby Bush regime is underlined by the creation of a Department of Homeland Security. And that...entirely apart from the fact that its $37 billion budget will compete with the FBI, CIA, NSA and other bloated and dangerous bureaucracies as Praetorian Guard wannabees."

20 posted on 12/21/2002 12:14:50 PM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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