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To: Libertarian Billy Graham
There is now a division between the citizenry and the state. When that state is used as a tool against me, there is no longer any reason why I should owe any allegiance to that state.

And that’s the first thing that child of ours is going to learn.

I flew to Vegas last month from Detroit. At the security screening area were some xeroxed signs warning that "aggressive" language was a crime and would be grounds for arrest. Presumably even raising your voice is a felony now. The state must be protected against the citizenry at all costs.

I think the writer now realizes what I have for a long time now... the state is your enemy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot. Read A.J. Nock's Our Enemy The State. I've been teaching my son that for a while now.

I owe no allegiance to the Feds, in fact the only thing I do owe them is my utter contempt.

10 posted on 12/21/2002 12:03:35 PM PST by AK2KX
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To: AK2KX
Read A.J. Nock's Our Enemy The State.

I read Nock as well as Oppenheimer's The State many years ago.

There is now a division between the citizenry and the state. When that state is used as a tool against me, there is no longer any reason why I should owe any allegiance to that state.

This quote from Doug Casey was posted on another web site in response to this story--as sort of a "conclusion" I suppose that some here are unable to deduce:

Americans have often wondered where the Germans were able to recruit all the people who staffed the Gestapo and the SS. The fact is, however, that sociopaths, sociopath sympathizers, the weak-kneed, and the easily-led form a standard distribution across all societies, in all times. We have just as many in America now as the Germans did in the 1930s. Maybe even more, since Americans have been programmed by the public schools and the mass media for several generations more than were the Germans of that time. Your local TIPS snitch might report that you "fail to display sufficient respect for authority." Or maybe he'll write down that you "laugh upon hearing the phrase 'homeland security'." Think I'm kidding?

The popular response to the TIPS program is proof that the time is now right for the creepy-crawlies to emerge from under their rocks. That neighbor who's got a kid, and a dog, and plays ball of a Saturday may have exactly the same dark side as the German who always politely shopped at a Jewish deli, but then broke its windows when Kristalnacht came.

One scary and hysterical government measure that hasn't been shelved was the activation of 300 Army National Guard tank battalions as part of a homeland defense force, as part of a strategy calling for the domestic use of U.S. military forces. Reuters reported that, in his July 20 speech, Bush said that tank battalions "will serve in the homeland defense role within the United States." I'd like to know how, exactly, tanks will be employed within the U.S.

The reactivity, and utter lack of principle, of the Baby Bush regime is underlined by the creation of a Department of Homeland Security. And that...entirely apart from the fact that its $37 billion budget will compete with the FBI, CIA, NSA and other bloated and dangerous bureaucracies as Praetorian Guard wannabees."

20 posted on 12/21/2002 12:14:50 PM PST by Libertarian Billy Graham
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To: AK2KX
the state is your enemy. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

So, when I put on my USAF uniform on Monday morning and I go to work on C-130 aircraft electrical systems, then I am the enemy? I am an idiot? You are so far off base man. I thought Arab terrorists were the enemy.

I owe no allegiance to the Feds, in fact the only thing I do owe them is my utter contempt.

Show me your utter contempt and I'll show you the hot lead of my 9 mm. Show my family your utter contempt and I'll show you the hot end of a shotgun. I am an American patriot and your words are no better than the hatred that the enemy shows us!

540 posted on 12/21/2002 8:25:46 PM PST by gcraig
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