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To: Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
Nothing lasts forever, but the USA can last a hell of a lot longer if people would put forth the tiniest bit of effort. It is not inevitable. It is being deliberately engineered.

Ah, but my dear sir, it IS inevitable. The reason for this is simple: it's already a done deal. The illegals are outbreeding the productive sectors of society by a significant margin. If you live in SoCal, a little drive down Harbor Blvd will open your eyes. Take it out a generation or so, and it's obvious to anyone what's happening.

Pesonally, I don't mind any longer. There's something called the 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, attempted resolution, depression, acceptance. Those of us who fought the earliest battles over Prop 187 back in the early 90s are well past stage 5. They won. Accept it and start dealing with how society will be structured in the future.

Me, I look to So. America. After all, if the US was merely a reflection of the societies/cultures/values of its earliest immigrants, then why would this not hold true today? The point is, it does. Therefore, the US will tend to increasingly resemble Mexico City ie where the immigrants are coming from today.

Is this a bad thing? No, not really, as long as you're part of the productive class. The wealthy/middle-classes in So American live like kings - their purchasing power is tremendous. We're already experiencing that in SoCal - no one I know never does any of their own yard-work, etc.

One other thing: I think the real opposition to illegal immigration is NOT because it's against the law. It's skills and education. If the illegals where all engineers, there wouldn't be a peep. How often are these threads directed at Asians? None, even though there is a significant amount of 'illegal' immigration coming from there as well.

252 posted on 12/22/2002 6:51:31 PM PST by Snerfling
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To: Snerfling
The illegals are outbreeding the productive sectors of society by a significant margin.

You're seeing something as inevitable that may not be. Are you aware there's a case right now in federal court that could determine that children of illegals are not necessarily automatic citizens?

The case itself involves a son born here to Saudi parents, but if the government wins in the Supreme Court the implications are enormous in that when illegals are deported, their children go with them. It also take away a huge incentive that illegals now have for crossing the border, that anchor baby which allows them to stay and bring in their families.

256 posted on 12/22/2002 7:25:12 PM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Snerfling
How often are these threads directed at Asians? None, even though there is a significant amount of 'illegal' immigration coming from there as well.

One reason is because you don't hear the President of any Asian country constantly demanding that the United States give amnesty to millions of his country's citizens who are illegally in the U.S., like President Fox of Mexico does. Americans are sick and tired of that con artist of a President south of the border.

295 posted on 12/22/2002 8:58:31 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Snerfling
Actually, I've heard plenty on this forum about illegal aliens of all races. I think the key is the word illegal. Illegal means just that. If someone is here illegally, they should be packed up and sent home, wherever that is, at their or their home countrie's own expense. That is pretty straitforward and doesn't mention race once. Race doesn't matter. Legal or illegal matters.
310 posted on 12/23/2002 7:07:00 AM PST by Republic of Texas
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