[Dog]

Ping!

[VRWC_minion]

There must already be a winner.

[VRWC_minion]

What color smoke do they use ?

[SerpentDove]

PING

[Digger]

How soon with Frist will we have prescription drugs & the rest of the liberal agenda. Just watch. Nothing wrong with him going to Africa etc. but he's a total inexperienced politician to face Ms.Cellulite legs. He's to be the waterboy for an very modest agenda purpetrated by a moderate president in a time when we need NO moderates. If this is the best when the pubbies hold all top offices how in God's green earth can any TRUE conservative issues get answered?? Please tell us. I'm with Paul Whyrich. this is no big shakes to conservatives. However, I'm glad Lott is out.

[SamAdams76]

Hopefully there will be some Krispy Kremes served at this conference call.

[dfwgator]

ABC Radio just reported Frist has the votes.

[b4its2late]

Have you got the phone number? We can have a live thread.... ;-)

[PianoMan]

Incidentally...how about some credit to McCain for lying low during the whole thing, and not making any statement until Lott made his? Just curious for Freepers' opinions.

[sneakypete]

Who in the DNC will take part? We all know the RNC and the White House need to get Dim approval before they do anything.

[chachacha]

One last blast from the past!

For all you pc correct wimps on this Liberal PC forum.

I hope your all setting in front of your TV screens and watching the calling for more blood from all those left wing groups you THOUGHT you were going satisfy on the hill.

The Dem's will carry this to the next ELection.

Here is the Battle cry

Why vote for any republican? You threw Lott out for his past voting record why not the rest. They all voted the same on abortion, affirmative action, school choice issues. AND ALL MINORITY ISSUES

Cave in on all the other PC issues and you'd still not get the minority vote. Weakness and PC correctness will never work.

YOU ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE GRASS ROOTS AND I'M ONE OF THEM

[MeekOneGOP]

Bill Frist

[jrlc]

HELLary ought to shut up -- oh yes, and please give back the silverware.

[rightwing2]

Reportedly a corronation for mushy moderate pro-choice Bill Frist. What a crock! Say goodbye to principled conservative leadership in the Senate until 2008 when Frist gets bored of being Senate Minority Leader and runs for Prez and loses...

[ETERNAL WARMING]

This is bad news! We need to get on the Senators to stop the Frist appointment. Frist is to the Left of Lott...a big spender, pushes bipartisanship, looks to be a globalist in attitude, involved in the Aids in Africa deal and others around the world...which means hold onto your wallets. Here's his immigration record:

Here's what NumbersUSA.com had on him:






(If you are reading this on paper, note the "Last Updated" date above. Consult the website www.NumbersUSA.com for any new or changed information, which occurs often.)

View Report Card of Sen. Frist's Immigration Actions


Career Record Source: Congressional Record Usually supports higher immigration, population growth, foreign labor.

Each symbol in the left-hand column below signifies an action for HIGHER immigration. Voting Key Each symbol in the right-hand column below signifies an action for LOWER immigration.

Chain Migration


Voted in 1996 to continue chain migration Sen. Frist voted to continue a chain migration system that has been the primary reason for annual immigration levels snowballing from less than 300,000 in 1965 to around a million today. Sen. Frist voted AGAINST both the Simpson Amendment and the Feinstein Amendment to S. 1664.


Has done nothing in the 107th Congress to reduce chain migration Sen. Frist has not introduced, co-sponsored or spoken in favor of legislation in the 107th Congress that would reduce chain migration. Legislation has been introduced in the House to eliminate chain migration, a recommendation of the bi-partisan, national Barbara Jordan Commission which noted the role of chain migration in harming economically vulnerable Americans. Chain migration leads to snowballing U.S. population growth due to large extended families entering the country, with each new entrant potentially making it possible for many more to qualify to come. Sen. Frist is among the majority of Senators who support the federal government's program of forcing rapid population growth through chain migration, either by explicit spoken approval or through silence about the program.


Major Numbers in All Categories


Importing Specific Foreign Workers Cosponsored legislation to import more foreign workers through an agricultural guestworker program in 2001 Sen. Frist is cosponsoring S.1161 an agricultural guestworker program that would adjust the status of certain alien agricultural guestworkers. This would not only increase U.S. population by adding new residents, but in some cases it would provide a form of amnesty for illegal aliens who have been working illegally in the agricultural industry. Click here to see a list of cosponsors.


Voted for a foreign worker bill with no anti-fraud measures in 2000. Sen.Frist voted for S.2045, the Abraham foreign worker bill to nearly triple the number of foreign high-tech workers. On the heels of the release of a GAO report finding no proof of a high-tech worker shortage and evidence of abuse in the H-1B program, Sen. Frist voted for this foreign worker bill that contained no worker protections or anti-fraud measures. The bill passed the Senate 96-1.


Nearly doubled H-1B foreign high-tech workers in 1998 Sen. Frist helped the Senate pass S.1723 in a 78-20 vote. Enacted into law, it increased by nearly 150,000 the number of foreign workers high-tech American companies could hire over the next three years. Although the foreign workers receive temporary visas for up to six years, most historically have found ways to stay permanently in this country. Sen. Frist voted for more foreign workers even though U.S. high tech workers over the age of 50 were suffering 17% unemployment and U.S. firms were laying off thousands of workers at the time.


Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998 Before the Senate passed the H-1B doubling bill (S.1723), Sen. Frist had an opportunity to vote for a measure requiring U.S. firms to check a box on a form attesting that they had first sought an American worker for the job. Sen. Frist voted against that, joining those who said the requirement would give government too much authority over corporations’ right to hire whomever they please from whatever country.


Voted to allow firms to lay off Americans to make room for foreign workers in 1998 Before the Senate passed the H-1B doubling bill(S.1723), Sen. Frist had an opportunity to vote for a Kennedy amendment that would have prohibited U.S. firms from using temporary foreign workers to replace Americans. Sen. Frist opposed that protection. The Amendment failed 38-60.


Citizenship for Illegal Alien Babies

No actions in this category.


Inviting/Repelling Illegal Aliens Voted for comprehensive alien tracking and identification system in 2002 Sen. Frist voted in favor of H.R. 3525, the Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2001. H.R. 3525 will significantly reduce future population growth from illegal immigration by making it much harder for temporary visa holders to stay in the country illegally after their visa expire. H.R. 3525 provides for an entry-exit system in which every visa holder is checked with a biometric identifier when he\she enters and leaves the country. This information is included in an integrated database that is shared by the appropriate law-enforcement officials. H.R. 3525 passed the Senate unanimously by a vote of 97-0 and is expected to be signed into law by President Bush.








Voted against an amnesty for illegal aliens in 2000

Sen. Frist voted against a procedural vote to include an amnesty for illegal aliens from El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Haiti in the Senate H-1B bill (S.2045). This was not necessarily a vote against the amnesty but rather a vote against including it with the H-1B bill. The move to include the amnesty with the H-1B legislation failed43-55 in a procedural vote on the Senate floor.




Voted to grant amnesty to close to one million illegal aliens from Nicaragua and Cuba in 1997 Sen. Frist voted to grant legal status to Nicaraguans and Cubans who had lived in the United States illegally since 1995, along with their spouses and minor unmarried children. The overall ten year impact of this legislation will be the addition of some 967,000 people to U.S. population. There was no separate vote on the amnesty, as it was inlcuded in the DC Appropriations bill. The only opportunity Senators had to vote in favor of or against the amnesty was the Mack Amendment to S.1156. The Mack Amendment passed 99-1.


Voted in 1996 for major law that cracked down on illegal aliens. Sen. Frist was part of a 97-3 majority which passed S.1664. It was a large omnibus bill with dozens of provisions aimed at reducing illegal immigration. It authorized major increases in the border patrol forces. But it also had many provisions aimed at making life more miserable for illegal aliens who manage to get into the country, half of whom arrive with legal visas but then illegally overstay. Until passage of the bill, a person could be apprehended as an illegal alien, be deported and then turn around and come back to the U.S. on a legal student, tourist, worker or relative visa. After the bill, an illegal alien was barred from any kind of legal entry for 10 years.


Tried to kill voluntary pilot programs for workplace verification in 1996 Sen. Frist voted IN FAVOR of the Abraham Amendment to S.1664. He was part of a coalition of pro-business conservatives and liberal civil libertarians who tried to use the amendment to kill the establishment of voluntary pilot programs in high-immigration states. The programs were intended to assist employers in verifying whether people they had just hired had the legal right to work in this country. Such verification is considered by many experts to be an essential tool for withdrawing the job magnet from illegal aliens. The verification system established by S.1664 did not involve an ID card. Rather it provided that when new workers wrote down their Social Security number on an application, employers could phone into a national verification system to help assure that the number was a real number and belonged to the person giving it. In earlier smaller pilot programs, businesses had hailed the verification system for making it easier for them to avoid hiring illegal aliens. Sen. Frist was unsuccessful in stopping the voluntary verification system. The Senate tabled the Abraham Amendment by a 54-46 vote.




Tell Senator Frist what you think of his immigration record. Phone: 202-224-3344 Fax: 202-228-1264 E-Mail: email available via website. Website: http://www.frist.senate.gov/ D.C. Address: SR-416, U.S. Senate Washington, DC 20510

District Offices 10368 Wallace Alley Street - Suite 7 Kingsport, TN 37663 12 Oaks Executive Park 5401 Kingston Pike - Building 1, Suite 170 Knoxville, TN 37919 5100 Popular Avenue - Suite 605 Memphis, TN 38137 6000 Building 5704 Marlin Road - Suite 2303 Chattanooga, TN 37411 28 White Bridge Road - Suite 211 Nashville, TN 37205 South Royal Depot Building 584 South Royal Street Jackson, TN 38301

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Forgot to add that he's a health freak, into excercise and wants programs for kids, etc. He's involved in "obesity" programs, etc. This guy is a nut case! Please call your Senators pronto! We can't let this guy in that office!

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Here ya go! More on this socialist Frist:

Frist a Major Shareholder in Reputed For-Profit Abortion Provider By Terence P. Jeffrey


Bill Frist (R.-Tenn.), reportedly the White House choice to succeed Trent Lott (R.-Miss.) as Senate majority leader, is a major shareholder in HCA, a for-profit hospital chain founded by his father and brother. HCA reportedly provides abortions to its customers.

So now Republicans face this question: If it is disqualifying for their Senate leader to make offensive remarks interpreted as endorsing an immoral policy that denied African-Americans equal rights, is it also disqualifying for their Senate leader to make money from a hospital chain that denies unborn babies the right to life?

Frist has deposited his major stockholdings in a "blind trust" chartered Dec. 28, 2000. A schedule of the original assets in this trust filed with the Senate showed holdings in 16 companies. Frist reported the value of these assets, as per Senate rules, within broad ranges (e.g. $1,001-$15,001). If the lowest possible value is assigned to each holding, Frist at that time had invested a minimum of $566,015 in 15 other companies, while investing at least $5,000,001 in HCA.

That would mean that approximately 89% of his holdings were in this company.

Furthermore, on its face, the trust agreement appears structured to allow the administrators to maintain this heavy concentration in HCA stock. It also specifically instructs the administrators to inform Frist if they divest entirely from any holding, including HCA. And, finally, it gives Frist the power to directly order the administrators to divest from HCA or any other holding that Frist determines "creates a conflict of interest or the appearance thereof."

HCA does not trumpet its reported involvement with abortion. But, in April, Catholic Financial Services Corporation (CFSC), a mutual fund company, announced that it was starting an S&P 500 Index Fund that would "exclude companies on the abortion issue"—and that HCA was one of only six companies on the index that would be excluded on these grounds. A spokesman for the mutual fund explained to me last week that the company excludes hospital chains that perform abortions and pharmaceutical companies that deal in drugs that induce abortion.

On December 18 and 19, I placed several calls to HCA corporate spokesman Jeff Prescott, to ask him directly whether abortions were performed in HCA facilities, or whether the company refuted CFSC’s determination that they were. I left him voice messages to this effect, and repeatedly told his secretary my questions. At 5:00 p.m. on the 19th, as press time approached, the secretary left me lingering on hold with no answer. When I hung up and called back, I got Prescott’s voice mail again and left him one last message. He never returned my call.

I also spoke with Sen. Frist’s spokesman, Nick Smith. I explained to Smith my understanding that the terms of Frist’s "blind" trust allowed the administrators to maintain a heavy concentration in HCA, while allowing Frist to order the sale of this stock, and while also compelling the administrators to inform Frist if they divested entirely from HCA or any other holding. I cited the specific passages in the trust to this effect. I also asked Smith to clarify Frist’s position on abortion—which has confounded pro-lifers over the years—and why Frist would not divest, since he apparently could, from a company that reportedly performs abortions.

When Frist first ran for the Senate in 1994, the Nashville Banner reported that he "frequently" said he "does not believe abortion should be outlawed." In a May 1994 radio interview, the Banner reported, Frist said, "It’s a very private decision." One of Frist’s Republican primary rivals, Steve Wilson, the Banner said, "demanded that Frist sell his millions of dollars in stock in the Hospital Corporation of America [HCA], which Frist’s family founded. Some of the hospitals in the chain perform abortions."

Tennessee Right to Life PAC Director Sherry Holden, however, told the Banner that Frist had told her organization he was pro-life. "He said he’s against abortion, period—no exceptions, except rape and incest," said Holden.

Yet, an Oct. 10, 1994, Memphis Commercial Appeal report on a debate between Frist and incumbent Sen. Jim Sasser (D.-Tenn.) said: "There were some topics on which the candidates agreed—both said they’re personally opposed to abortion but don’t think the government should prohibit abortions."

I asked Smith whether Frist wanted to prohibit abortion either by constitutional amendment or by over-turning Roe v. Wade and enacting prohibitions in the states, including Tennessee.

Smith responded by faxing me a statement. The White House, pro-life Republican senators, and their grassroots supporters can decide whether it is responsive:

"These two issues [the HCA investment and abortion] are separate and distinct," wrote Smith.

"On his own accord, by placing his assets in a federally qualified blind trust, Sen. Frist took a step above and beyond to ensure there is no conflict of interest," wrote Smith. "He believes this was the proper and responsible thing to do. He has never been employed by, or served on the board of, HCA or any of its hospitals.

"As a U.S. senator who acts on public policy each and every day, his record on abortion is clear," Smith continued. "He is opposed to abortion except in the instances of rape, incest and when the life of the mother is threatened. He is opposed to federal funding of abortion. And in the Senate, he led the fight against partial-birth abortion."

His Senate website includes a statement saying, "No one can deny the potential human cloning holds for increased scientific understanding. But . . . I am unable to find a compelling justification for allowing human cloning today."

As Bill Clinton might say, that doesn’t rule out tomorrow—when he may be Senate majority leader.

[Salvation]

Won't be Frist.

You can all tell me I was wrong on Monday. But today I am thinking that there is too much money funneled to the Republicans from the conservatives who would not support Frist. It's just a gut feeling.

[Salvation]

From the ACU website.

Senator Bill Frist (R)
Tennessee
Republican, Years of Service: 7

ACU Ratings for Senator Frist:
Year 2001	100
Year 2000	92
Lifetime	88

Senator Trent Lott (R)
Mississippi
Republican, Years of Service: 29

ACU Ratings for Senator Lott:
Year 2001	96
Year 2000	100
Lifetime	93

Senator Mitch Mcconnell (R)
Kentucky
Republican, Years of Service: 17

ACU Ratings for Senator Mcconnell:
Year 2001	96
Year 2000	100
Lifetime	89

Senator Don Nickles (R)
Oklahoma
Republican, Years of Service: 21

ACU Ratings for Senator Nickles:
Year 2001	92
Year 2000	100
Lifetime	96

Senator Rick Santorum (R)
Pennsylvania
Republican, Years of Service: 11

ACU Ratings for Senator Santorum:
Year 2001	100
Year 2000	100
Lifetime	86