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To: titanmike
Do you have any evidence of that OTHER than redshift?

Yes. We can look at the time evolution of the most distant type Ia supernovae (in other words, how they increase and die off in brightness over time). These supernovae should follow the same profile over time, all over the universe. But supernovae that are receding from us rapidly will brighten and dim more slowly, for two reasons: the Doppler effect and time dilation. As it turns out, both of these effects are measurable in the distant supernovae and are in good agreement with the observed redshifts. There is no doubt that they are receding from us in a manner that increases with distance.

138 posted on 12/20/2002 5:12:20 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Supernovae that are receding from us rapidly will brighten and dim more slowly, for two reasons: the Doppler effect and time dilation. As it turns out, both of these effects are measurable in the distant supernovae and are in good agreement with the observed redshifts. There is no doubt that they are receding from us in a manner that increases with distance.

Aw man! I didn't get YOU anything for Christmas!!

145 posted on 12/20/2002 8:42:59 PM PST by Condorman
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To: Physicist
What you seem to have here is several lines of logic which appear fairly sound leading to an irrational conclusion (the idea of all the matter and energy in the universe being condensed to a point and then somehow exploding its way out of the point15 billion years ago). That (good logic leading to bad conclusions) usually means you're looking at something the wrong way and that there's some other explaination(s) for the data.
148 posted on 12/21/2002 9:24:20 AM PST by titanmike
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