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Meet Bill Frist: Senator championed confirmation of pro-abortion Satcher
WorldNetDaily ^ | 12-19-02 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 12/19/2002 9:01:50 PM PST by Salvation

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To: america-rules
I don't exactly agree with your stats. I believe far more than 50% of Pubbies are not pro-abortion. The electorate itself is about evenly split....and that includes youngsters who haven't a clue yet.

As for my 2 daughters, they already know I'll raise any accidents if they occur. I hope they are listening in case it happens. I don't care to see my progeny murdered for convenience.

But, having said that....it's not my sole issue. It's part of my holy trinity of RKBA and the Culture War as well with the struggle with the Islamists and Taxation high on my list as well.

What about you?
201 posted on 12/19/2002 10:51:16 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: ApesForEvolution
Oh please. This isn't even a question of faith. This yet another highjacking of an issue, by a bunch of Inquisitionists. Every single thread, whether it is about Tom Keane on the 9/11 commision or a thread about Sen. Frist, we have to be preached to by these people.
202 posted on 12/19/2002 10:51:36 PM PST by paul544
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To: EternalVigilance
"I'm not wasting another minute on someone like you."

At last!
Something that we can both agree on!
203 posted on 12/19/2002 10:52:16 PM PST by APBaer
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To: dogbyte12
Are you an e.e. Cummings fan?


nah Horatio Alger is more like it and Hardy Boys too! Of course the originals. LOL
204 posted on 12/19/2002 10:53:03 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: EternalVigilance
I have become a dissident Pubbie for the first time to any measure in the past two weeks.

I don't believe in capitualtion but I'm not sure I see any really good senators. There are a handful of strong hard right House members but that's about it.
205 posted on 12/19/2002 10:53:22 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
"We should all jettison those who think it's a light matter burdening our party."

If the pro-life plank is only window-dressing in the GOP, I'm done voting Republican, to heck with the consequences. I would give my dying days to a legitimate and viable 3rd party centered on the Constitutional, Founding principles for this day and make sure life was a part of it.
206 posted on 12/19/2002 10:54:27 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: sinkspur
Now, because Lott, Bush, and the "canonized conservatives" stayed silent, we've got "racist" hung around our necks.

It's worth the time that I don't have to read this thread but am taking anyway just to see you passionately criticizing President Bush. After all the times I was criticized for disagreeing with him over some point, I'm encouraged and amused to see this side of you.

For the record, conservative distaste for Trent Lott goes far beyond his handling of impeachment. The problem is that impeachment was a perfect example of how he has handled everything during his time in "leadership." For instance, he didn't have to make an agreement that the change of a seat would give the Senate to the Democrats after the 2000 elections. If he hadn't made that agreement, the Jeffords betrayal wouldn't have changed anything or at least the Democrats would have been forced to fight for control. Trent Lott has always been a very weak leader. The GOP has long needed a Moses, and we've been stuck with a Lott.

Actually, I agree with your primary argument. I think Lott's comments at Senator Thurmond's birthday party were meant only to be nice to an old guy on his birthday and not to endorse the stupid policies that he once embraced. I'd still love to know how Senator Byrd voted in 1948. Some of the other quotes that the media is attributing to Senator Lott are disturbing, but I'm skeptical of them as well. If the media has taken these comments out of context, how do we know that it hasn't done the same with others? Just like the boy who cried "Wolf!" the liberal media has cried "Racist!" too many times.

I also agree that Senator Frist will generally do a reasonable job as Senator Majority Leader.

I will challenge you on one point. When President Bush was governor of Texas, he named a road in Houston after a prominent black doctor who was also an abortionist. Pro-life leaders were furious at this move and claimed that he had promised that he would not name the road after this man. I realize that there is some difference between supporting someone for a government position and naming a road after someone who will not be occupying an office, but then-Governor Bush did honor a man who killed innocent unborn children. Your criticism of Senator Frist for championing a killer of the unborn seems a little out of place considering the way you attacked people who questioned Governor Bush's pro-life committment after he honored a killer of the unborn.

WFTR
Bill

207 posted on 12/19/2002 10:54:32 PM PST by WFTR
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To: Torie
see I told you
208 posted on 12/19/2002 10:54:38 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: John Valentine
I prefer Jesus freak, thank you.
209 posted on 12/19/2002 10:55:15 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: All
Time to FReep the white house
210 posted on 12/19/2002 10:55:25 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: APBaer

Don't be so hasty, I think he's refering to matthew 7:6

Further, he would be correct to do so.

Night..

211 posted on 12/19/2002 10:56:09 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: wardaddy
"The electorate itself is about evenly split...."

Yes and about 50% of that is GOP !

I agree that if any of my offspring had an accident I would take the kids in a heart beat if abortion was an issue - Ofcourse this would only be if the shotgun didn't work :)

What is pissing me off is all those here that think they can Judge everyone else to get in the gates of heaven !

212 posted on 12/19/2002 10:56:28 PM PST by america-rules
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To: ApesForEvolution
I would concede almost the entire culture war sans RKBA for a reversal of Roe in a perfect world but since we aren't in one....I have to be more pragmatic than I like. A PBA ban would be a nice place to start.
213 posted on 12/19/2002 10:57:54 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: ApesForEvolution
Outlawing it will just bring back back alley abortions and coat hangers. Or they can always go to Canad or Mexico. So what is the point ? I'm anti-abortion but realize outlawing it will not stop it. Just like the drug war if there is a demand, there will be a market.
214 posted on 12/19/2002 10:58:28 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: america-rules
"personally would vote to make any abortion a capital crime even in rape or incest (Killin is killin) but making it the sole issue is just freekin stupid !"

So you would vote for Charles Manson or a Adolph Hilter-type candidate if they agreed with all other positions you believe in other than murder, genocide, or abortion?

I don't mean to be facitious here, but your statement implies that logic exactly. Certainly, we all have to look at the whole package of beliefs by candidates, but you would have to admit some beliefs would have to disqualify them despite all other beliefs.

Would you vote for a candidate, for instance, that favored allowing the immigration of girls from foreign countries who were forced into prostitution? Certainly not; it wouldn't matter what that candidates views were on any other issue, you would say "get the heck out of here, moron."

215 posted on 12/19/2002 10:59:13 PM PST by power2
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To: TLBSHOW
Go for it!
216 posted on 12/19/2002 11:00:10 PM PST by Salvation
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To: america-rules
My views on abortion haven't one thing to do with religion.

50% of the electorate and 50% of pubbies is not the same thing. I would guess that very few serious perpetual pubbies are pro abortion and narrow that down to two parent households with children and it becomes a very small percentage. White folks with kids are the most dependable Pubbie voting block there is outside of Jews. Nothing against Jews....stats show the younger ones are streaming our way thankfully.
217 posted on 12/19/2002 11:01:55 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: TLBSHOW
"sorry apes but TLBSHOW is always right"

Todd, so is a broken clock a couple times each day, but your broken clock seems to skip at least once each day.
218 posted on 12/19/2002 11:02:20 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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To: power2
I think you're reading me wrong.

Abortion is probably 10 on the list of my top 10 list !

I want the Gov't out of our lives and I want the states to have the powers they were given.

The Feds (Since FDR) have been getting too much control over the states and we're creeping in the wrong direction.

BTW: I support Bush about 90% so I'm no PJB fan but I'm a realist and think 90% is the most we're gonna get in the next 50 years so abortion is GODS issue not mine.

219 posted on 12/19/2002 11:04:31 PM PST by america-rules
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To: ApesForEvolution
WHERE HAVE I HEARD THAT BROKEN CLOCK THING? HUMMMM

OH YEAH TOS
220 posted on 12/19/2002 11:04:35 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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