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To: BallandPowder
this is bullshit! So we're suppose to allow them to come work here and then send whatever meager payments they make into SS back to Mexico? that's frerakin ridiculous. WE NEED SOME REAL AMERICA FIRST LEADERS TO STEP UP AND STOP THIS INSANITY!
3 posted on 12/19/2002 6:47:42 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
I think you're missing the point. It's not the pay-into at issue here. It's the pay-out that's being claimed. A much more costly proposition.
31 posted on 12/19/2002 7:09:31 AM PST by tangerine
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To: Texas_Jarhead
WE NEED SOME REAL AMERICA FIRST LEADERS TO STEP UP AND STOP THIS INSANITY!

Just a reminder ... In the 2000 election, there was a candidate who gave the Immigration Problem top priority - Pat Buchanan - he was practically crucified by many on FreeRepublic. Pat was not even allowed to participate in the presidential debates to raise the issue.

51 posted on 12/19/2002 7:25:20 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Texas_Jarhead
This totally makes sense - don't you guys get it? They tell us that our Social Security "Trust Fund" is running out of money. The obvious answer is to send millions of those dollars to Mexico so they can prop up their own Social Security program. That way OUR Social Security system is saved and the world is a better place /sarcasm off

Seriously, this single issue (actually the entire immigration/Mexico/etc junk pile) has about pushed me over the edge. Bush has totally lost his marbles. First he wants to legalize millions of illegals - rewarding law breakers. Now he wants to send our SS money to Mexico.

What the hell is GW smoking?

Clinton sold our country to China - now Bush is doing the same with Mexico....

Anyone care to bring up impeachment for treason? Bush obviously wants to put on a show of being a strong defender of the US with his "war on terror" but in reality is planning to give the country away to Mexico - giving away our sovereignty and thus nullifying the Constitution and all the laws of the land.

OK, now I am officially pissed off.....
145 posted on 12/19/2002 9:56:06 AM PST by TheBattman
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Hold on a minute.

You can't have it both ways. If you insist that illegals should pay taxes, well, then they should have the same rights as citizens to receive whatever payments they would be entitled to.

The alternative is for them to be allowed to not pay Social InSecurity taxes while in the US. Of course that brings its own problems: A heck of a lot of people would become Mexican citizens if they could work here without fear of reprecussions and not pay SS taxes.

Which do you think should happen? Taking taxes earmarked to provide benefits and then making it illegal to obtain the benefits is not fair by any stretch of the imagination.

D

150 posted on 12/19/2002 10:15:55 AM PST by daviddennis
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To: Texas_Jarhead; madfly; Sabertooth
Someone needs to remind me again why I vote for the R's and not the D's.

This stinks.
212 posted on 12/19/2002 1:39:03 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Texas_Jarhead
yes it is Bullshit let's see:
illegal entry = deportation
federal document fraud = min $10,000.00( if I remember right) fine and 5-10 in club fed
illegal hiring of illegal aliens= $10,000.00 per instance +
criminal penalties
running stop sign or speeding by legal law abiding citizen
$100-200.00
guess who will pay the most????? us citizen
guess who gets rewarded????? illegals + big money construction
VOTE FOR BUCHANAN
225 posted on 12/19/2002 2:21:44 PM PST by stormtx
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