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U.S. Social Security May Reach To Mexico
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| 12/19/2002
| Jonathan Weisman
Posted on 12/19/2002 6:43:40 AM PST by BallandPowder
Edited on 12/19/2002 8:53:16 AM PST by Admin Moderator.
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To: BallandPowder
"the Bush administration is working on a Social Security accord that would put tens of thousands of Mexicans onto the Social Security roster"That's it. Just forget it. I'm not voting for anymore Republicans. Just let me know when it's time to shoot the bastards.
To: B4Ranch; WhiteGuy; FITZ; RLK
To: AuntB
Thanks--holy cow! I am sorry for your ordeal, and to see those guys get checks must have been horrible. I didn't know this could happen.
To: RnMomof7
Been there, done all that. An attorney will NOT see you until you are ready for the appeal stage. The SS ofc kept loosing the tons of paperwork and just kept making me reapply as a new claim. I never got farther than the "reconsideration" stage. Then they informed me my "time" had run out. I worked for 40 years and paid into that system. I don't want their handout program. I earned my disability.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:04:07 PM PST
by
AuntB
To: Howlin
I'm over the top? lol
Bush is devouring our sovereignty with catsup, planning to send a billion a year of Social Secuirty to Mexico, and I'm over the top? You tell me, do you really believe that "legal" migrant farm workers have contributed a billion a year into the Social Security System on their best year, how about EVER? In all the years they have snuck across the border they have never contributed a billion dollars into SS. He is over the top dear heart and so is anyone who thinks he's cherry on the sundey.
Let's just pass over that astronomical figgure and talk about the new "Office of Home Land Security". Thirty two billion dollars for what? He can't tell you, he has only some vague idea of how it is suppose to function. Let's talk about the "Patriot Act" very well named because it could very well be Patriots that catch it in the teeth with this legislation. It's scared the B'daylights out of Armey and Barr so bad that they have hired on with the ACLU.
He has placed this gad awful weapon in the bumbling hands of those that gave us Waco, and Ruby Ridge, with NO OVERSIGHT. There is no oversight on the FBI or the CIA, not to mention why does the Pentagon need a data base on every American?
Yeah, someone is over the top Lady, but it sure ain't me.
To: MigrantOkie; B4Ranch; WhiteGuy; FITZ; RLK
More than 100,000 illegal aliens obtained Social Security numbers in 2000 using fraudulent documentsSocial Security Called A Bigger Fraud Than Corporate Scandals
Social Security lies - Walter Williams
"Here's what the 1936 government pamphlet on Social Security said: "After the first 3 years -- that is to say, beginning in 1940 -- you will pay, and your employer will pay, 1.5 cents for each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. ... Beginning in 1943, you will pay 2 cents, and so will your employer, for every dollar you earn for the next 3 years. ... And finally, beginning in 1949, 12 years from now, you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year."
Here's Congress' lying promise: "That is the most you will ever pay."
To: MonroeDNA
I was in shock! I thought they'd made a clerical error....none of us knows where this system is headed, but it doesn't look good.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:07:48 PM PST
by
AuntB
To: warchild9
...the right decision to back secession... Since the people in DC have obviously all gone insane, I now have to agree with you. We can not, and must not, allow ourselves to be governed by those who are suffering from formal dementia.
Get busy folks!
Make YOUR state the first to become (once again) a sovereign nation-state, free of entanglements with the DC madmen. I don't see that we have any other choices open to us any longer.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:08:20 PM PST
by
XLurk
To: BallandPowder
I smell Carlos "The Jackal" Rove!
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:18:10 PM PST
by
Righty1
To: Uncle Bill
They don't consider that lying. Only perjury is lying to them.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:18:46 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
To: Uncle Bill
He'll never pay a dime back to SS.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:20:09 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
To: Uncle Bill
"compassionate conservatism" is gone. Us compassionate conservatives are fed up with being raped by our own Republican leaders. I am an Independant Constitutionalist who no longer can see the difference between parties.
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:24:28 PM PST
by
B4Ranch
To: B4Ranch
"compassionate conservatism" is gone. Us compassionate conservatives are fed up with being raped by our own Republican leaders. I am an Independant Constitutionalist who no longer can see the difference between parties.I hear you...it is all about POWER...neither party has clean hands
To: MigrantOkie
~~~I'm not voting for anymore Republicans. Just let me know when it's time to shoot the bastards. ~~~~
Now THAT'S an intelligent response./sarcasm
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posted on
12/19/2002 4:28:34 PM PST
by
justshe
To: B4Ranch
Can't you just feel that compa$$ion rolling in.
Two Twin Cities Men Charged With Having Hundreds Of Fake Documents
Associated Press
Dec 19, 2002 12:28 pm US/Central
Source
Two Twin Cities men have been charged with possessing hundreds of false Social Security cards and immigration documents allegedly sent in packages from southern California.
After a yearlong investigation, Fernando Gutierrez, 33, of St. Paul was charged Wednesday with trafficking in fraudulent immigration documents and possessing document-making implements.
During the investigation, authorities monitored express deliveries from Los Angeles to the Twin Cities, including 26 items delivered to Gutierrez's address.
In a package intercepted last month and later delivered by undercover agents, authorities found 104 blank fraudulent resident-alien cards from the Immigration and Naturalization Service, 104 blank Social Security cards and six sheets of INS laminate, according to documents.
Authorities also found a driver's license and a false Social Security card in the name of an alias Gutierrez allegedly used.
In another case, authorities have charged Cristian Martinez, 31, of Minneapolis with possessing false identification documents, possessing false immigration documents and possessing counterfeit Social Security cards.
Last month, agents intercepted and delivered a packaged to Martinez containing 500 blank Social Security cards and 892 laminating sleeves. They also found fraudulent documents and a checkbook on the name of an alias he allegedly used.
Martinez told agents a relative in Los Angeles sent the package to him and that he was planning to sell the cards on the street, according to authorities.
FBI Agents Probing Terror Links Say They Were Told, Let Sleeping Dogs Lie - December 19, 2002
FBI Chief Mueller Expresses Support for Muslim Group
"We're not looking for individuals of any particular religion or from any particular country."
FBI Director Robert Mueller - SOURCE
America is great. We've had the first black president and first Mexican president, all within a decade. Compassion runneth us over.
To: Landru
our dollars -- in many forms -- have been finding their way to places like Puerto Rico for decades, now. No kidding--I wonder if we could move to Puerto Rico and enjoy their benefits without the tax burden--probably not--we are natural born US citizens, and as such are somehow deemed responsible for the upkeep of the poor and downtrodden all over the world.
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posted on
12/19/2002 5:56:30 PM PST
by
scholar
To: BallandPowder
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posted on
12/19/2002 5:57:15 PM PST
by
Bob J
To: Uncle Bill
BUMP
REPUBLICANS ARE DEMOCRATS NOW
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posted on
12/19/2002 5:59:20 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: B4Ranch
Us compassionate conservatives are fed up with being raped by our own Republican leaders. I am an Independant Constitutionalist who no longer can see the difference between parties.
bump
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posted on
12/19/2002 6:00:01 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: BallandPowder
Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!
Illegal Alien thieving Govt BUMP!
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