[Physicist]

I see the other side is already digging trenches behind the position that science has to observe--but not touch--the whole thing happening in a mud puddle in a month or so or it doesn't mean a thing.

But if it did happen, they'd say, "but you didn't get your own dirt."

[VadeRetro]

But if you make your own dirt from quantum virtual nothing, that's intelligent intervention. There's still no proof.