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Democrats plan to use Lott gaffe to push civil rights agenda in Congress
Associated Press / SFGate
Posted on 12/18/2002 5:08:34 PM PST by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
What rights are there left to get? Who, in 2002 America doesn't have civil rights? Once we all have equal civil rights, do we need MORE civil rights laws?
To: RCW2001
I'm a little lost on the concept of segregation being a white racist thing. I was only two years old when Thurmond ran for President so I need some educating. It appears to me that segregation is a black thing: Miss Black America, Black Expo, Black Caucus, Kwanza, NAACP, ad infinitum. If Lott was for this kind of segregation why is he being condemned by the black leadership? ;-)
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posted on
12/18/2002 6:45:20 PM PST
by
noahltl
To: Darling Lili
I think you're wrong. I think that just as soon as the slightest, credible charge of "racism" is leveled, all other discussion will stop.
This thing has become a monster, all because our people chose to imitate a deer in the headlights.
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posted on
12/18/2002 6:45:47 PM PST
by
Illbay
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To: Illbay
This thing has become a monster...
Perhaps a 'little' diversion is in order to slay this beast..hmmm?
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posted on
12/18/2002 6:49:51 PM PST
by
RCW2001
To: VRW Conspirator
This whole tempest reminds me of an old saying: the jackals howl when the lion walks by. If Lott had been lion-like (true statesman, principles over popularity) then this whole thing would have died down. These continual a**kissing apologies are truly nauseating and are far worse than anything he said at the birthday.
A politician who is a real statesman should act for what is right, regardless of whining by jackals. Eventually he would have come through this.
I hope the other Repubs can get some character together and if more of this stuff starts to get thrown, they deal with it like the effluvia that it is.
To: RCW2001
The unasked question is how does a moron with an extremely bad rug become majority leader in the senate? It's not a matter of whether Lott should step down. It's a matter of what the hell was Lott doing there in the first place? Only an idiot would make such a comment whether he actually believed it or not. Was he trying be funny convinced Strom's birthday was the place for him to finally become comedian of the year? Or is he indeed a closet racist as some now are convinced?
If I had to wager I would wager he was trying to be funny and to humor Strom in his on self indulgent embilcilic way...and that he is not some closet racist as others have prescribed. The problem comes when one has to discriminate between a moron and racist. There's a fine line there making it difficult to analyze the minute differentiations between moron and racist.
To: LibWhacker
They WILL go away because they have no substance. Have faith.They won't go away until the GOP stands up and says THIS IS ENOUGH. Lott isn't a favorite, but the Dems are very good at picking on the least popular. Not many are going to stand up for Ashcroft, either. And after that, who else? The only ones who are safe are the nearly-Dems like McCain.
The Dems never sacrifice anyone. Why are the GOP so happy to throw any of theirs to the wolves?
To: Polybius
It's time to get a new dog that is not afraid of the pheasants.And who is that??? It certainly is not any of the sheep that are happy to dump Lott just because he was attacked by the Dems. The GOP are weaklings. The Dems will stand up for one of their own, no matter how vile, but the GOP will attack theirs on the weakest provocation from the enemy party.
I'm looking for someone willing to face down the Dems. And that's not easy to find these days.
To: Illbay
"I think you're wrong. I think that just as soon as the slightest, credible charge of "racism" is leveled, all other discussion will stop." The operative word being "credible," of course.
Don't worry. I doubt there are too many more powerful Republicans standing in line to publicly applaud segregationism.
To: Illbay
This thing has become a monster, all because our people chose to imitate a deer in the headlights. You're right.
"Our people" should have handed Lott a script, shoved a collective arm up his butt, and worked his mouth while he told his detractors to go to hell: he was advocating state's rights while complimenting an old man at his birthday party. Thinking he was smart enough to diffuse this gaffe by himself, they didn't, and Lott reverted to type.
By the way... if Lott hadn't imitated a deer in the headlights on BET, we wouldn't all be wondering, now, how he's going to vote when a non-affirmative action judicial nominee comes up.
To: Polybius
Considering the cowardice that Lott showed on the BET interview, there won't be any "facing it" with Lott as Majority Leader. Lott reaching out to black people reminds of the sly dog trying to nuzzle up to the cat...no fooling the cat.
To: Common Tator
Now this I agree with you on. Let's suppose, for the sake of argument, that Lott stays. The minute he caves to Daschle, he is likely to engender a revolt within the Senate Republican Conference. The loyalty of people like Santorum, McConnell, and Ted Stevens does not come cheap. So if Lott stays, it's because he's made a bargain with those conservatives less disposed to compromise with Daschle.
Lott's loyalty to Judge Pickering will be an early "manhood" test. Either he meant what he said about Pickering last year, or it was all a travesty. I see no indication that Pickering's nomination will be pulled, as of yet, despite what Lott said last Monday night.
What I am counting on is that the Democrats will, as is their fashion, overreach. They will tend to because their political center has gravitated to the left. The Democratic left is filled with zealous ideologues and such people always believe their own bullshit. Thus, the Rats cannot help but attempt to ride this horse as far as it will take them.
Until, wanting for food and drink, the horse keels over and meets its maker.
Meanwhile, Bush will remain in the center, being the guy who is trying to solve the problems. As you indicated to us over a year ago, that makes all the difference.
Be Seeing You,
Chris
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posted on
12/18/2002 7:56:05 PM PST
by
section9
To: thedugal
This is just code for giving specil privilages to Homos, as a matter of fact if the Dems had their way i would probably have to spend time in jail for saying "homo".
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posted on
12/18/2002 7:57:56 PM PST
by
Husker24
To: Darling Lili
I agree with your statements, except that when you have a political animal like Lott you're dealing with, you never make it necessary for him to think he's got to go on BET.
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posted on
12/18/2002 7:59:07 PM PST
by
Illbay
To: Illbay
We have to fight fire with fire, get rid of Lott as Majority leader and then constantly bring up Byrd Byrd Byrd!!! non stop, at least Lott wasnt in the Klan.
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posted on
12/18/2002 8:00:02 PM PST
by
Husker24
To: APBaer; RCW2001
APB, that was soooooo funny.
RCW, I wish some republican would say that just once on tv...."What rights do I have that Jesse Jackson doesn't have?
To: Darling Lili
Remember Lott on Nov. 6th? "I'll probably do some things that will make the democrats mad." He said this in such a whimpy way I wanted to puke. Oh, Trent, whatever you do, don't make the enemy mad.
To: speekinout
It's time to get a new dog that is not afraid of the pheasants.And who is that??? It certainly is not any of the sheep that are happy to dump Lott just because he was attacked by the Dems.
Lott should not be dumped because he got attacked by the Dems. He should be dumped because exposed his belly and peed on himself in submission to the Dems on BET.
So who is the dog that is not afraid of the pheasants? In the opinion of the National Review, it is Seanator Don Nickles.
"Don Nickles's voting record, which the NAACP condemns as too similar to Lott's, should really recommend him. In contrast to Lott, he is able and willing to defend it. The sooner conservatives can defend principled votes at odds with the NAACP's agenda without Trent Lott's self-imposed baggage, the better. "
NRO Staff on Sens. Nickles, Santorum, McConnell & Frist
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posted on
12/18/2002 8:38:28 PM PST
by
Polybius
To: sinkspur
White guilt is an ugly thing to watch...yep, and the 'rats played the 'pubs like champion big-game fishermen on this one - threw charges out and then watched the 'pubs run away rather than defend Lott for fear of being called racists themselves (even though many of them had heard him make similar comments many times before with no objection whatsoever), egged him into more and more grovelling and apologies because he wasn't "emotional" enough or said policies were "discarded" instead of rejected, and now want to throw him overboard because he's sold out the party - and they really believe that they'll be more steadfast and determined when the 'rats go after the next 'pub leader for some trumped up insensitivity or slur......
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