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To: Luis Gonzalez
"We disagree"

We do, but you are always informed and passionate about your views and present them in a dignified way. I respect that.

I see a terrible threat to our real freedoms...movement, speech, activities, etc. that is far worse than the inconvenience of having to have papers necessary to prove my citizenship. The best way to save those other freedoms, which are potentially compromised by some of the Homeland Security initiatives, is to make the nation whole again. That means closing up those porous borders and stabilizing the population. We're at a defense, moral, economic, and cultural crisis. We have a few generations of people from which most of the leaders who emerge don't know sacrifice or hardship. They think everything can be solved by applying another textbook answer.

If we aren't more tolerant of the small things (like being able to prove who we are and if we belong here), we lose the big things. Right now, the priority is saving the nation, its values, its security, its culture, and its laws.

58 posted on 01/26/2003 11:32:48 AM PST by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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To: grania
We do, but you are always informed and passionate about your views and present them in a dignified way. I respect that.

Thank you, it's nice to have a dialogue with someone rather than a flame war.

"If we aren't more tolerant of the small things (like being able to prove who we are and if we belong here), we lose the big things."

It seems that we are losing the big things one small step at a time, and that would be one more step. Take as an example gun registration, no big deal at the surface, or so it would seem, but it was mandatory gun registration that provided the database for Hitler and Castro to round up all guns, and disarm the citizenry after seizing power.

Does gun registration make sense at the surface? It certainly does, as it would provide a readily available database to track down ownership of guns used during crimes. Am I opposed to it? Absolutely. The remedy could have far deadlier consequences than the disease.

I *PINGED* you and Jim Noble to what I have been able to come up as a long-term solution to the illegal immigrant program, it's an article titled "Ants".

59 posted on 01/26/2003 1:04:50 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Ever So Humble Banana Republican)
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