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Dr. John Nava of the Bexar County Metropolitan Health District compared smoking cigarettes with carrying a loaded gun in public.

"You have no right to place the lives of others in danger," he said.

Oh don't worry- we'll get the guns next.(/lib spin)

1 posted on 12/17/2002 3:37:04 PM PST by Mark
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It never ends.
2 posted on 12/17/2002 3:47:11 PM PST by Mark
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No wonder Texas is so full of porkers. Four of the eight "most overweight" cities in the USA are in Texas. Here's the list:

1. Houston
2. Chicago
3. Detroit
4. Philadelphia
5. Dallas
6. Columbus, Ohio
7. San Antonio
8. Fort Worth

4 posted on 12/17/2002 3:55:38 PM PST by per loin
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I am an ex smoker for over 6 years now, but, I am against little old ladies or over bearing Dr.'s telling people what they can't do. This area is too conservative to put up with politicians who would try this. It will go down in flames. Watch out McDonalds, they are coming after you next.
5 posted on 12/17/2002 4:02:04 PM PST by Texbob
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Help someone! There was an article about a month ago--around the time Peggy Noonan wrote the article about how uncivil non smokers had become to smokers. It said the World Health Organization did a 12 site study on second hand smoke and the results were that it didn't cause increased chances of lung cancer in non smoking mates or children or cause asthma in children. I am not saying second hand smoke smells good, but I would like for the study they paid for to be released--I think it was the largest study they had undertaken on this subject.

They are wringing their hands about what to do with the study because releasing it will hurt "the Cause". I believe the article was written overseas, but I could be mistaken. It was a very long and detailed article, but I don't know how to search correctly to find it--I tried for an hour and just got frustrated.
9 posted on 12/17/2002 4:11:18 PM PST by Reb Raider
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"You have no right to place the lives of others in danger," he said.

Maybe the state of Texas should crack down on all of the nurses who are getting "easy to fill" prescriptions of Xanix.

Oh, that wasn't the kind of "putting lives in jeopardy" that these medical professionals were talking about.

Attack one person's vice while harboring their own.

11 posted on 12/17/2002 4:14:47 PM PST by weegee
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"Second hand smoke is the third leading cause of preventable death in the United States," San Antonio Emergency Medical Services director Dr. Don Gordon said. "It is responsible for 56,000 innocent deaths per year."

American Cancer Society Admits "Mistake" in Ad
53,000 deaths caused from second hand smoke?

American Cancer Society Admits "Mistake" in Ad

See how they lie? This guy said "56,000" deaths, and the AMA admits they LIED about the 53,000. The anti's sure are disgusting.

13 posted on 12/17/2002 4:18:22 PM PST by SheLion
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San Antonio would join Boston among major cities with the country's toughest smoking control laws

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! I am trying to get my happy a$$ hired in San Antonio! AAAUUUUUUGGGGGGGRRRRRHHHHHHHH

16 posted on 12/17/2002 4:21:09 PM PST by maxwell
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"Working in the service industry does not force you to give up breathing clean air," he said.

LETTER: Top of the list
Source: New York Daily News, 2002-12-16
Author: Thomas Lent

Intro: People who work in bars make very little in salary, and rely on tips. The reduction in business from the smoking ban will result in a reduction in their wages. Their priority is to make a living. If their priority was to avoid secondhand smoke, they wouldn't have taken bar jobs in the first place.

17 posted on 12/17/2002 4:21:33 PM PST by SheLion
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TEXAS SMOKERS' CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE STATE ECONOMY - 2001
18 posted on 12/17/2002 4:22:30 PM PST by SheLion
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Dr. John Nava of the Bexar County Metropolitan Health District compared smoking cigarettes with carrying a loaded gun in public.

What a maroon. It is perfectly legal to carry a loaded gun in public in Texas. Without a license.
23 posted on 12/17/2002 4:25:28 PM PST by johnb838
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"You have no right to place the lives of others in danger," he said. Nava said the prime beneficiaries of tough anti smoking laws will be waitresses, bartenders, and other service industry workers.

I have mentioned it before, it bares repeating. The main assault will come from the labor laws. That was the, very successful, tactic used in my state, California. Good luck, you'll need it.

31 posted on 12/17/2002 4:30:32 PM PST by golder
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Dr. John Nava of the Bexar County Metropolitan Health District compared smoking cigarettes with carrying a loaded gun in public.

This numbnuts may not have noticed, but it is NORMAL AND LEGAL to carry a loaded gun in public in Texas. I would go to a Curandero before I would let someone like this medicate me. And I could smoke a cigar there while I waited.

So9

43 posted on 12/17/2002 4:53:15 PM PST by Servant of the Nine
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I am not a smoker but I think the smoking/non-smoking sections in restaurants have worked out just fine. I do have two friends who are actually allergic to smoke and end up wheezing bigtime if they spend too much time in a bar where their is not a non-smoking section. So, I can see both sides.

This is really a private property issue. Businesses has proven that they can accomodate both smokers and non-smokers. That being said, I think that governmental entities are within their right to prohibit smoking in public buildings.

47 posted on 12/17/2002 5:16:07 PM PST by Slyfox
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Sheesh. Could they have packed one more blatant lie or hysterical utterance in one article? I thought Texans were smarter and tougher than this. Of course, I'm not a very good judge of character--I thought New Yorkers were, too.
51 posted on 12/17/2002 5:45:29 PM PST by Max McGarrity
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"Second hand smoke is the third leading cause of preventable death in the United States," San Antonio Emergency Medical Services director Dr. Don Gordon said. "It is responsible for 56,000 innocent deaths per year."

Now there's a man who should be drummed out of the profession immediately. He's not only a liar, but stupid as well.

53 posted on 12/17/2002 5:48:21 PM PST by Bonaparte
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"There would be an area within so many feet of a public building where smoking out also not be allowed," she said. "It's not fair that people have to hold their breath and run a gauntlet of smoke in order to get into a building."

Well, why are they out there? It would easily be solved with a smoking lounge inside.

These same people will walk in exhaust fumes and not think a thing about it.

Becki

58 posted on 12/17/2002 6:12:36 PM PST by Becki
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Yep, the smokers sure are turning a changing a lot of minds with their current arguments.

Hello, anybody there ? You are not going to turn this around until you recognize that you smokers need to stop being rude and obnoxoious about smoking everywhere all the time.

66 posted on 12/17/2002 6:45:21 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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See, this is precisely what's meant by the slippery slope.

This whole issue is built on PRIVATE property having been deemed "public" a few decades ago. Sure, at the time, it seemed like it was in the name of a just cause (civil rights). But this is exactly what happens once you cede any amount of freedom for the sake of "equality": more and more freedom gets taken away.

89 posted on 12/17/2002 10:43:40 PM PST by wizzler
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"Second hand smoke is the third leading cause of preventable death in the United States," San Antonio Emergency Medical Services director Dr. Don Gordon said. "It is responsible for 56,000 innocent deaths per year."

They keep telling the same lies and the numbers keep getting bigger and bigger.
If it came down to scientific proof they wouldn't be able to use one study that hasn't been debunked or disproven.

92 posted on 12/18/2002 6:34:12 AM PST by Just another Joe
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Texas, San Antonio to be Anti Smoking Battlegrounds

I'm especially interested in the part of San Antonio that's not in Texas.
94 posted on 12/18/2002 9:45:12 AM PST by Xenalyte
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