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To: RadioAstronomer; A.J.Armitage; longshadow; PatrickHenry; Piltdown_Woman

This is a very interesting graphic that shows the extent to which we've searched the universe for alien civilizations. Earth-like radio emissions represent the bottom edge of the graph; as you can see, we haven't even begun to search for them. As for civilizations that have transmitters the size of our largest dish (Arecibo) transmitting directly at us, we've only searched thoroughly out to about 100 light years. The galaxy is 100,000 light years across, and we live in a portion of it that is somewhat more rarefied than average.

[For reference, a "Type I" civilization would be roughly capable of transmitting a signal equivalent to all of the sunlight striking the Earth, 2x1017 Watts. A "Type II" civilization would be roughly capable of sending a signal equivalent to the power of the sun, 4x1026 Watts. (I believe the canonical signal limits for these civilizations are given as 1016 Watts and 1026 Watts.)]

122 posted on 12/18/2002 8:20:48 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Very interesting and eye-opening graphic. We have a long way to go on the SETI search!
127 posted on 12/18/2002 8:27:48 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: RadioAstronomer
That portion of the universe which I personally have explored is teaming with life.
129 posted on 12/18/2002 8:30:22 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Physicist
The galaxy is 100,000 light years across, and we live in a portion of it that is somewhat more rarefied than average.

But is life (as we know it) possible in the denser portions of the galaxy?

132 posted on 12/18/2002 8:44:32 AM PST by js1138
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To: Physicist
Thank you for the ping and the graph!
150 posted on 12/18/2002 10:58:45 AM PST by Aracelis
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To: Physicist
This is a very interesting graphic that shows the extent to which we've searched the universe for alien civilizations.

Thank you! :-)

194 posted on 12/18/2002 7:48:02 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Physicist
But it seems to me to call the parameters on which the graphic is based . . . to call those parameters

valid parameters on ALL THAT IS

IS A REALLY FOOLHARDY SET OF ASSUMPTIONS.

We don't have sufficient perspective in any respects to firmly grip such a huge set of assumptions with any arrogance at all, much less 'sanity' compared to say . . .

God's perspective.

We don't even know where the curtains are, much less what's behind those unknown curtains.
412 posted on 12/21/2002 10:59:55 PM PST by Quix
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