[yendu bwam]

Maybe the didn't eat the apple and are still living in Eden. Why bother leaving if it can't get any better?

Yeah, perhaps there are many beings in this universe who don't suffer the effects of original sin. I sorta hope that's true! And you're right. The last place they'd want to come is here.

[stuartcr]

If they don't suffer the effects of original sin, do they have a hell?

[Physicist]

Yeah, perhaps there are many beings in this universe who don't suffer the effects of original sin. I sorta hope that's true! And you're right. The last place they'd want to come is here.

Or maybe they do suffer the effects of original sin. There they are, happy in their alien Eden, when one day God comes along and says, "Sorry, but you'll have to go. No, no, you didn't do anything wrong. I have to do this all over the universe, because some creatures called humans ate one of those fruits I told you not to. Eh? Yes, I told them not to, but did they listen? They're on a planet called Earth, Milky Way galaxy; maybe you can look them up someday, and inform them of your inconvenience. Tell you what...here, have a bite of this tree-of-knowledge fruit. The secret's out anyway, and you'll need it where you're going."

[Quix]

I liked C.S.Lewis' space trilogy's treatment of these issues.

But it seems to me that the Scripture ALL CREATION GROANS as though in burdened, troubled expectancy and yearning for the manifestatino of the sons of God [whatever all that means] . . .

would IMPLY that all creation is somehow polluted to some degree by sin--by opposition in some sense to God's perfection.

The ruling and reigning with Christ and the judging angels could also easily be construed as fitting in with that . . .

Earth being a 'temporary' in infinite time terms boot camp to rear up a large number of intelligent creatures made in God's image to rule and reign with Christ through endless ages in an economy based on Love, humility, servant-heartedness in submission to God's ways . . .

going about the infinite universes setting to right all that became polluted and less than perfect.

Sounds fun to me.

The Lord of The Rings could end up being a shallow soap opera BY COMPARISON.