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Big Drug War News (Congressman Dan Burton on the drug war)
The Agitator ^ | 17 December 2002 | Radley Balko

Posted on 12/17/2002 9:39:06 AM PST by Joe Bonforte

In a little noticed hearing of the House Government Reform Commnittee last week, Indiana Congressman (my homeotwn's Congressman actually) and longtime drug warrior Dan Burton made some stunning comments. In a hearing entitled "America's Heroin Crisis, Colombian Heroin and How We Can Improve Plan Colombia," Burton stopped just a hair short of advocating the decriminalization of drugs. Watch the video here (cut forward to 1 hour, 18 minutes into the hearing). Here's the transcript:

Dan Burton: I want to tell you something. I have been in probably a hundred or a hundred and fifty hearings like this at various times in my political career,. And the story is always the same. This goes back to the sixties. You know, thirty or thirty five years ago. And every time I have a hearing, I hear that people who get hooked on heroin and cocaine become addicted and they very rarely get off of it. And the scourge expands and expands and expands. And we have very fine law enforcement officers like you go out and fight the fight. And you see it growing and growing, and you see these horrible tragedies occur. But there is no end to it.

And I see young guys driving around in tough areas of Indianapolis in cars that I know they can’t afford and I know where they are getting their money. I mean that there is no question. A kid can’t be driving a brand-new Corvette when he lives in the inner city of Indianapolis in a ghetto. You know that he has gotta be making that money in someway that is probably not legal and probably involves drugs.

Over seventy percent of all crime is drug-related. And you alluded to that today. We saw on television recently Pablo Escobar gunned down and everybody applauded and said “that’s the end of the Medellín cartel. But it wasn’t the end. There is still a cartel down there. They are still all over the place. When you kill one, there’s ten or twenty or fifty waiting to take his place. You know why? Its because of what you just said a minute ago, Mr. Carr, Mr. Marcocci (sp). And that is that there is so much money to be made in it ­ there is always going to be another person in line to make that money.

And we go into drug eradication and we go into rehabilitation and we go into education, and we do all of these things... And the drug problem continues to increase. And it continues to cost us not billions, but trillions of dollars. Trillions! And we continue to build more and more prisons, and we put more and more people in jail, and we know that the crimes ­ most of the time ­ are related to drugs.

So I have one question I would like to ask all of you, and I think this is a question that needs to be asked. I hate drugs. I hate people who succumb to drug addiction, and I hate what it does to our society. It has hit every one of us in our families or friends of ours. But I have one question that nobody ever asks, and that is this question: What would happen if there was no profit in drugs? If there was no profit in drugs, what would happen. If they couldn’t make any money out of selling drugs, what would happen?

Carr: I would like to comment. If we made illegal... what you are arguing then is complete legalization?

Dan Burton: No I am not arguing anything. I am asking the question. Because we have been fighting this fight for thirty to forty years and the problem never goes way...

....Well I don’t think that the people in Colombia would be planting coca if they couldn’t make any money, and I don’t think they would be refining coca and heroin in Colombia if they couldn’t make any money. And I don’t think that Al Capone would have been the menace to society that he was if he couldn’t sell alcohol on the black market ­ and he did ­ and we had a horrible, horrible crime problem. Now the people who are producing drugs in Southeast Asia and Southwest Asia and Colombia and everyplace else. They don’t do it because they like to do it. They don’t fill those rooms full of money because they like to fill them full of money. They do it because they are making money.

At some point we to have to look at the overall picture and the overall picture ­ and I am not saying that there are not going to be people who are addicted ­ they are going to have to be education and rehabilitation and all of those things that you are talking about - but one of the parts of the equation that has never been talked about ­ because politicians are afraid to talk about it ­ this is my last committee hearing as Chairman. Last time! And I thought about this and thought about this, and thought about this. And one of the things that ought to be asked is “what part of the equation are we leaving out?” And “is it an important part of the equation?” And that is ­ the profit in drugs. Don’t just talk about education. Don’t just talk about eradication. Don’t just talk about killing people like Escobar, who is going to be replaced by somebody else. Let’s talk about what would happen if we started addressing how to get the profit out of drugs.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if, twenty years from now, we could look back at law-and-order Dan Burton's conversion as the "Nixon goes to China" turning point of the drug war?


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To: Texaggie79
So you are implying that Coke, meth, heroin are all really harmless? The danger is all in our heads?

Classic, just classic.

Alcohol is extremely dangerous if consumed in excess. So are coke, meth, and the various opiates. But all three of the latter categories of drugs are used in medical practice. Cocaine in solution was swabbed into my nose during my nasal surgery to reduce swelling and dull the nerves of my sinus tissue, as it is a extremely effective topical anesthetic.

More information on the opiates is at this link.

501 posted on 12/18/2002 3:05:17 PM PST by mvpel
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To: mvpel; Texaggie79
Yep tex has reverted back to his 'classical' full denial mode.

He will now attempt to ignore every post except those to which he can formulate some sort of wisecrack.
Of course, such remarks only illustrate his unwise & juvenile views about our free republic.
502 posted on 12/18/2002 3:22:07 PM PST by tpaine
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To: mvpel
So you need to buy ounces of it at wall-mart? REALLY?
503 posted on 12/18/2002 3:25:50 PM PST by Texaggie79
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To: Texaggie79
'Wise'-crack #1.
504 posted on 12/18/2002 3:38:33 PM PST by tpaine
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To: jmc813; Kevin Curry

Where have I ever done so? If I had, then I sincerely apologize to all drug users to have mistakenly associated them with humanist ideologues.

505 posted on 12/18/2002 4:47:22 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
"I sincerely apologize to all drug users to have mistakenly associated them with humanist ideologues." -CJ-


CJ, your 'sincerity' disappeared months ago in this post below , along with your crediblity on this forum:


"It is sound Christian doctrine that the presense of unneeded suffering in the world is caused by one thing, and one thing alone: sin. War, famine, drought, flood, pestilence, disease, all are caused by sin. But we are not able to judge individual human souls. That is the prerogative of God alone.
A pregnant mother who was crushed in the WTC suffered and died because of sin, but not necessarity because of HER sin.

She may have suffered and died for the sins of someone else. Perhaps for my sins, perhaps for yours, perhaps for the sins of the terrorists, perhaps for the sins of Bill Clinton and Barbara Boxer.
Immorality brings unneeded suffering and death. Sure, we can pinpoint some individual instances, and perhaps deduce whose sin is being punished. A man who consents to step out of an airplane without a parachute: he may not suffer and die right away, but certainly down the road because of his action."

All I do is describe Reality. Anyone is free to disagree with Reality if they want to.

111 posted on 09/15/2001 9:25 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad

506 posted on 12/18/2002 5:44:45 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
So according to CJ does that mean that if we would all stop all of this sinning that we would live forever?

I got to tell you I have known long term, hard core drug addicts and alcoholics that don't come up with stuff that is this bizarre.

507 posted on 12/18/2002 5:57:46 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Kerberos; All; Cultural Jihad; Texaggie79; Roscoe; yall
Yep, between CJ, texaggie, roscoe, and their cohort, -- we have just about seen all the bizarro political behaviors known.

Let us pray they continue to amuse us. -- Humor like theirs is hard to find
508 posted on 12/18/2002 6:09:58 PM PST by tpaine
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To: MrLeRoy
Just another interesting fact I found tonight concerning the use of alcohol and the incident of committing a violent offence against another of an intimate relationship. Taken from the Department of Justice fact file.

About half of all offenders convicted of intimate violence and confined in a local jail or a State prison had been drinking at the time of the offense. Jail inmates who had been drinking prior to the intimate violence consumed an average amount of ethanol equivalent to 10 beers.

509 posted on 12/18/2002 7:16:45 PM PST by Kerberos
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