Catholics may soon have the numbers in N Ireland (those fecund breeders!)

The Guardian via SMH ^ | December 18 2002 | Rosie Cowan in Belfast

[Guillermo]

Where did I say it was?

If you don't get the point, you are too stupid to even have a discussion with.

[Wallace T.]

You are correct with regard to your observation about colleges. So long as the "ticket" to the middle and upper classes runs through college campuses, this will be a problem. However, even the liberals' dominance of the ivory tower may have its limits.

With the rise of the Internet and advanced computer technology, the physical campuses of today may be as obsolete as medieval castles were made by the development of cannon, or calvary by the machine gun and tank. Let's say, technology permitting, that in 10-15 years, an entrepreneurial minded campus like, say, Hillsdale College offers a virtual classroom, not correspondence courses or quasi-home schooling. A student might be able to attend a four year college at home for, say, $10,000 instead of $85-90,000 at Hillsdale itself, or $30-40,000 at a state university.

I'm sure the educational establishment would fight this tooth and nail. But remember that there are 50 states that must recognize each other's laws, and many private colleges. Were this to happen, it would be as revolutionary as the rise of the Internet and talk radio smashing the former liberal monopoly in the news media.

Pray that the liberal monopoly in higher education goes the same way! Let the "Red diaper doper babies" find a new career, possibly working as greeters at Wal-Mart or hamburger cooks at fast food joints.

[Barnacle]

Is this this an invitation to the Irish to get out of the USA?

No, for the North to be joined with the Republic.

[Salvation]

Irish Ping!

[Prodigal Son]

GREAT BRITAIN SHOULD GET ITS DIRTY HANDS OFF OF IRELAND!

Or what?

Don't jump to conclusions- I'm honestly curious. What should happen if Great Britain refuses?

[Guillermo]

Well, they refused to recognize our Independence, what happened then?

[Prodigal Son]

So, are you saying Ireland should go to war over it? First, what if the Irish don't want to? What then? Second, what if the Irish did want to go to war over it and lost- and not only lost, but lost more territory? What then?

[Guillermo]

I'm not saying what anyone should do.

I'm just saying that common sense tells you that N Ireland should be Irish and it's about time the Brits get their grubby hands out of there.

1776 only 1/3 of George's subjects wanted Independence. If the war had of failed, GW, TJ, et al would have all been hanged, and they knew it, and they were prepared for the consequences.

[Prodigal Son]

Why should common sense tell me that?

Apparantly Ireland doesn't care to fight over Northern Ireland- end of story. If they don't want it... You see what I'm saying?

The only thing that should ever decide that question is going to be the ballot box. Ireland already signed their sovereignty over to the EU- so did Britain (although they've kept their economic sovereignty). They are in effect both neighboring regions of the same nation now. 20 more years down the road the EU members are going, it will be a moot point whether "Ireland" can claim that the 6 counties belong to it or not.

The people in Northern Ireland haven't gone to the polls and decided to join up with Ireland. It isn't for the rest of us to tell them what they ought to do- much less suggest that they ought to go to war over it. They're free to vote for what they want, yes?

[Guillermo]

I believe in majority rule with minority rights.

Like I said earlier, I'm not saying what anyone involved should do...my opinion was that common sense tells you that N Ireland should be Irish, not British. Is this OK with you? If not, then move on!

[Prodigal Son]

You never answered my question about why common sense should tell me that.

If not, then move on!

LOL! You move on! I didn't realize you had the authority to order me off this thread. I'm responding to one of your posts. If you didn't want other members to respond to what you wrote, you shouldn't have put it out there.

[bc2]

cheers, NI... how's the weather over there? Judging from the view from O'Connell Street Bridge I'd say you haven't had snow in Dublin this season?

say it ain't so!

b_c

[FITZ]

Regardless...victory by fecund breeding is victory none-the-less.

I'm all for having big families ---I think 10 or 12 kids is a good number ----but only if the parents can afford them. I wonder how many of these families in N. Ireland are living off welfare and the ones that are aren't going anywhere. I've read that many of the Catholic big families are on welfare. The welfare system seems only good at creating a two-tiered system instead of a strong middle class society.

[AmericanInTokyo]

where in the hell did you get THAT?

[AmericanInTokyo]

I always thought the island of Eire looked a bit like a Teddy Bear.

[BlueLancer]

Monty Python ... "The Meaning of Life"

[freedumb2003]

Not to get too far off topic, but the one that drives me crazy is the very very frequent use of "loose" for "lose."

If you look around at FR you will see that one a LOT. I can't tell if it is failure to distingush between the 2 words, a brain fart, or a simple typo.

I am a 2 finger typist so I do that "teh"-type error a lot as well a space sbeing in the wrong place. Oh well.

[mdmathis6]

I think bert is saying that Protestants should start having larger families than their own and trust God to help them support them instead of using birth control.

[freedumb2003]

"trust God to help them support them instead of using birth control."

That's what Catholics do (resulting in their fecundity).

[Ax]

I was in Ireland last summer for my niece's wedding. Mein host at the B&B we were staying in in Adare and I had chat one night, over a wee drop o' the creature. His considered opinion re the Ulster situation: even if there were a Catholic majority in the province, and it were put to a plebiscite, they would vote to stay with the UK. They would be loathe to give up the welfare benefits provided by London.