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KISSINGER WITHDRAWS FROM 9/11 PROBE; Pro-abortion Kean named instead
LifeSite Daily News ^ | December 16, 2002 | LifeSiteNews.com

Posted on 12/16/2002 8:53:15 PM PST by Polycarp

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To: Sparta
Geez... the implication here is sheer overkill. If someone believes in abortion it means they are qualified for, well, nothing. What kind of logic is that?

It would be like depriving Liberace a piano because he's a bit foo-foo.

21 posted on 12/16/2002 9:25:46 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: Sursum Corda
What we see here is an inconsistent ethic of care for innocent human life, born and unborn, by the President.

To put in place an infamous pro-abort to head a commission investigating a murderous attack on innocents in New York, metro D.C. and PA is unnecessarily divisive. Are there not any number of tacitly pro-life people out there who could do the job without this unnecessary controversy?

When a "pro-life, evangelical Christian GOP" president repeatedly makes appointments like this, the pro-abort pubbies have already won the battle for the soul of the party.

All that remains is to remove the Pro-life Plank from the GOP party platform, and pick a pro-abort VP running mate. It WILL happen between now and 2008.

Anyone care to bet that it won't happen?

22 posted on 12/16/2002 9:27:34 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
i>"Does anybody give a damn?"

Hey. Where's your principles?

Do you question your plumber on his abortion views? How about the guy that takes your money at the toll booth?

Yeah, that's it. When you pull up to the toll booth and question them, and they say they're "pro-choice", I'm sure you pull to the side of the road and shout, "I refuse to pass through this toll booth until a heterosexual, pro-life, evangelical Christian takes my money!

May I recommend a good Christian Rock song from about '84? Song's called "Guilty by Association", by Steve Taylor.

23 posted on 12/16/2002 9:28:57 PM PST by CoolGuyVic
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To: Hildy
What the heck do his views on abortion have to do with investigating 9/11?

The same thing being a politican has to do with investigating 9/11.

Not a damn thing.

The report has already been written, and will be the same regardless of which bozo (Kissinger, Mitchell, Kean, Dole, Rudman, etc...) is put in charge.

Investigative "failures" will be blamed on lack of resources and not enough laws, (i.e., you peasants need to pay more in taxes and give up your Rights to be safe).

This committee has nothing to do with the truth, and everything to do with providing cover for the globalists and enacting more laws and taxes.

If they were serious about an investigation, it would have started on 9/12/01, and consisted of veteran police and private detectives/investigators. And it would have folks like David Schippers in charge. Not a bunch of washed up politicians with more foreign interests than American ones.

24 posted on 12/16/2002 9:33:06 PM PST by Mulder
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To: maui_hawaii
If someone believes in abortion it means they are qualified for, well, nothing. What kind of logic is that?

If one does not comprehend that abortion is a heinous crime against humanity, one is not qualified to serve a party whose official party platform states

The Supreme Court’s recent decision, prohibiting states from banning partial-birth abortions — a procedure denounced by a committee of the American Medical Association and rightly branded as four-fifths infanticide — shocks the conscience of the nation. As a country, we must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

For God's sake, if we can't hold GOP politicians to this bare minimum, what the hell is a platform good for?

Let these pro-abort SOB's go join the Dems, or sit silent on the sidelines.

But do not appoint a pro-abort SOB who lobbied to remove the above paragraph from the GOP platform to ANY position in a "pro-life evangelical Christian GOP" president's administration!

25 posted on 12/16/2002 9:37:20 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: maui_hawaii
Liberace - foo-foo - say it ain't so.
26 posted on 12/16/2002 9:37:39 PM PST by smalltown
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To: Hildy
Life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life life
27 posted on 12/16/2002 9:38:23 PM PST by Salvation
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To: smalltown
Sorry to disappoint you... maybe we should post it in breaking news with a bunch of !!! so everyone can all be alarmed together...
28 posted on 12/16/2002 9:41:21 PM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: CoolGuyVic
Guilt by Association???

Kean tried to get the pro-life plank taken outta the GOP platform! He ain't a toll collector, he ain't a plumber, Kean is the most radical pro-abort politician Bush has ever appointed.

He's not a bystander who just happens to personally hold pro-abort views, he is a known radical pro-abort activist. Again, if it were up to Kean, this paragraph would be removed from the GOP platform!!!

As a country, we must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.

29 posted on 12/16/2002 9:45:07 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
Sometimes, we all can go too far and actually begin obsessing over the issues we care about, instead of dealing with them constructively. I suspect Kean is a good investigator, if his name is being brought up in this context, and if I were a relative of a 9/11 victim, a good investigator is what I want on the case. The other issues may be dealt with in plenty of other venues.
30 posted on 12/16/2002 9:48:20 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool
Sometimes, we all can go too far and actually begin obsessing over the issues we care about

Amen! Just look at this silly obsessive GOP party plank!

"The Supreme Court’s recent decision, prohibiting states from banning partial-birth abortions — a procedure denounced by a committee of the American Medical Association and rightly branded as four-fifths infanticide — shocks the conscience of the nation. As a country, we must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution and we endorse legislation to make clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life."

31 posted on 12/16/2002 10:00:31 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
9-11 was about death of the innocents -- abortion is about death of the innocents -- the correlation is too clear to dispute. You are either for the innocents or against. A very sad time of history, too many tears for the innocents.
32 posted on 12/16/2002 10:10:19 PM PST by DandG13
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To: sinkspur
The object is to make the Republican party the majority party for 30 years. How would you do that? One wayis to move the Republican party left so it takes its half the voters out of the center. That leaves one forth the voters on the left and one forth the voters on the right. In that case the center party always wins the majority.

I think that is the logic. Bush and Rove certainly wanted rid of Lott. People here go after Lott for letting Clinton off, but Lott had to contend with Newt Gingrich and Livingston both being as immoral as Clinton. I've heard that if the Republicans had not folded the Hustler issue revealing the sexual escapades of Republicans would have taken all the attention off Clinton and put it on the 17 hypocritical Republicans.

I think Bush just wants to make a left turn to a permanent majority. Lott as senate leader won't allow that. With Jesee Helms. Strom Thurman,and Phil Graham gone, Bush and Rove must have seen it as a good time to move to the left. They just need Lott gone to do it.

Bush and Rove certainly must have seen this as an oportunity to put Frist in the majority leader spot. I dont't think they counted on Lott playing hardball back. I think they mistook southern courtesy as weakness.

I still keep going back to two things that seem significant. First in homeland Security it was Lott who got Snowes and Chaffee's votes against the Daschle amendment. Daschle was sure he had them both on board to vote for the Dachle admentment to remove the house additions to the bill. That really blew my mind. It showed how much clout Lott had with Chaffee and Snowe.

Then when this broke Snowe issued a press release supporting Lott. RINO Snowe supports racist Lott. Will wonders never cease. Lott did not get anyting like that kind of support from Bush. The truth is Daschle has been more supportive of Lott than Bush.

I notice both sides using weasel words. Lott says he has no intention of resigning. Bush is saying there is NO reason for Lott to resign. This is a matter for the senate. That is funny. Homeland security was not not a matter for just the Senate. And I have no intention does not mean I will not do so. I intend to drive my car to work tomorrow, but I might drive my van.

I think Bush felt that Lott would fold. Lott is obviuosly not going to fold. Lott told the White House that if he is removed as leader he will resign his senate seat. I think he may have Snowe in his hip pocket. If when they have this meeting on Jan 6th if lott says I will resign, and Snowe says I will jump ship. I doubt that they will remove lott.

But the real tragedy is that Bush is not acting like a leader. He should have taken charge when they first told him what Lott had said. He didn't. I think he saw a way to get more control. It is obvious that bush has failed to do that. Lott may indeed pay a price, but nothing near the price that Bush is going to pay.

33 posted on 12/16/2002 10:13:57 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Hildy
What the heck do his views on abortion have to do with investigating 9/11

Megabump( but I would still like Henry).

34 posted on 12/16/2002 10:18:28 PM PST by weikel
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To: Common Tator
The object is to make the Republican party the majority party for 30 years. How would you do that? One wayis to move the Republican party left so it takes its half the voters out of the center. That leaves one forth the voters on the left and one forth the voters on the right. In that case the center party always wins the majority

And in that case, what worth does this "center party" have for conservatives?

Is this the beginnings of a real 3 party system?

35 posted on 12/16/2002 10:19:28 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Polycarp
You're and insane wack-job. End of story.
36 posted on 12/16/2002 10:39:48 PM PST by paul544
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To: paul544
Thanks!
37 posted on 12/16/2002 10:43:21 PM PST by Polycarp
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To: Common Tator
But the real tragedy is that Bush is not acting like a leader. He should have taken charge when they first told him what Lott had said. He didn't. I think he saw a way to get more control. It is obvious that bush has failed to do that. Lott may indeed pay a price, but nothing near the price that Bush is going to pay.

If Bush is not going to stand up to the race pimps over this, he won't stand up to them over anything. It's very disappointing.

38 posted on 12/17/2002 7:10:03 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: Polycarp
Utterly irrelevant unless you favor completely ostracizing anyone from any aspect of public (perhaps even private) life if they are not strictly anti-abortion (including rape and incest).

Is that what you propose?

39 posted on 12/17/2002 10:52:55 AM PST by tdadams
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To: tdadams
unless you favor completely ostracizing anyone from any aspect of public life if they are not strictly anti-abortion

Abortion falls solidly and irrefutably into the category of "crimes against humanity."

And yes, I favor shunning those who promote crimes against humanity.

Its the least we can do for God's helpless innocents.

40 posted on 12/17/2002 12:24:09 PM PST by Polycarp
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