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Don Nickles Calls for New Senate Leadership Election to Challenge Lott
Fox News | 12-15-02

Posted on 12/15/2002 6:33:57 AM PST by rightwing2

Fox News just reported that ABC reported that Nickles has called for a new Senate leadership challenge to Trent Lott!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bigcanodumbass; gop; lott; nickels; senate
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To: Torie
Agree with your 857 post...
861 posted on 12/15/2002 12:46:06 PM PST by marajade
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To: EternalVigilance
" ... and lay the groundwork for increasing our majority in '04."

Lott was only reelected for two years... We don't have to worry about the senate in 2004...
862 posted on 12/15/2002 12:47:41 PM PST by marajade
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To: sinkspur
If Lott isn't replaced as majority "leader" (while somehow being convinced to stay in the Senate), can I say, "I told you so," when another power-"sharing" agreement is offered when the Senate is gaveled to session, and again when John McCain leaves the Republican Party to give Tom Daschle another illegitimate "majority"?

BTW, I've already freely acknowledged that if Lott is forced all the way out of the Senate, Daschle will virtually-immediately become the illegitimate "majority" leader.

863 posted on 12/15/2002 12:48:19 PM PST by steveegg
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To: alnick
I didn't say one word about what he thought. I don't care what he thought; it's none of my business, or yours. It's what he said publicly and how he handled the mess that he made afterwards that's the problem.

Great, he did not say he was for segregation, he said he wished his old friend had been elected President so I guess you agree with me then.

Some of the very same people who labeled Byrd a racist after his white niggar remark are defending Lott now. The only difference between the two is that one has a D after his name and the other an R. Ironically it's these very same people who are harping on the hypocrisy of the left.

No, the difference is Byrd actually SAID, 'white niggar' he wasn't thinking it, he SAID it. Can't you see the difference??

864 posted on 12/15/2002 12:49:19 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: steveegg
There won't be a sharing agreement... Bush wouldn't dare let Lott do it and McCain ain't leaving the party...
865 posted on 12/15/2002 12:49:28 PM PST by marajade
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To: habs4ever
Nickles is showing he doesn't have the smarts to be an effective leader.

And this woud be Trent Lott's Edge? Maybe it has a lott to do with ethics and how far you are willing to go compromise to attract a coalition.

It would be nice in this age to see someone ascend to power without selling his soul, but sadly that may not be possible today.

866 posted on 12/15/2002 12:50:03 PM PST by itsahoot
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To: Torie
The new newsweek article by Fineman says that Mitch McConnell was the one that, during the conference call, said that if Lott leaves as ML, he would probably leave as a Senator altogether. The article makes it sound like McConnell was speculating, not raising this because he had heard it from Lott personally.
867 posted on 12/15/2002 12:50:15 PM PST by crasher
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To: crasher
Yup, that is my take.
868 posted on 12/15/2002 12:50:46 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Huge conservative lie. A very racist one as well. You seem to be saying blacks are no better than slaves and should be paid slave wages.

Last raise in the minimum wage didn't stop the economy from growing one bit. Jobs were being made by the millions.

Tie minimum wage increase to a making the tax cuts permanent. Also to eliminating the double taxation of dividends.

If we never change our thinking we will never gain black votes and will become the minority party once again. Jobs that are not worth more than $10 / hour have no place in America (other than for teenagers). Ship them overseas or to Mexico. Could also require US residency proof.
869 posted on 12/15/2002 12:51:13 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
It would take a lot more than a raise in the minimum wage to garner more of the Black vote...
870 posted on 12/15/2002 12:52:32 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
Lott was only reelected for two years... We don't have to worry about the senate in 2004...

Yeah, and the Titantic is unsinkable, right? ;-)

Seriously though, we MUST maximize our advantage in '04, (to waste that opportunity would be criminal) and work towards a true WORKING majority so we don't have to worry about the idiots like Jeffords or Chaffee or McCain anymore.

871 posted on 12/15/2002 12:52:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: ImphClinton
I don't typically make lying racist conservative comments. I have this odd view that I think I know something about economics and finance. I will leave it at that.
872 posted on 12/15/2002 12:54:16 PM PST by Torie
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To: EternalVigilance
The Dems have more seats to defend in 2004 and most of the Dem seats are in strong Bush states...
873 posted on 12/15/2002 12:54:41 PM PST by marajade
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To: crasher
Mitch McConnell was the one that, during the conference call, said that if Lott leaves as ML, he would probably leave as a Senator altogether.

He explained on This Week today that that is what has happened in the past. Everyone that resigned also resigned their seat. He went on to explain that in this case he wasn't sure Lott would do this because MS Democratic Governor.

874 posted on 12/15/2002 12:56:01 PM PST by ImphClinton
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To: ImphClinton
He wouldn't be the first politician to use a history lesson as a veiled threat.
875 posted on 12/15/2002 12:58:34 PM PST by Republic of Texas
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To: deport
It appears Lott is despised by many on this forum.

LOL, deport you have been here long enough to know that sooner or later everyone takes a turn being despised on this forum!

No, I've been saying from the first that a politically savy move would be to step down (along with a long, soul wrenching statement that says he's doing this for the good of the party, that although he's collegues know that he is not a racist, this sacrifice is necessary and that he knows that conservatives are held to an impossibly high standard, and he's going to use his time in the senate to prove to the country what the people of Mississippi already know....yada yada yada". Then he should take a very high profile position on a very important committee.

That will just KILL the race baiters because they will have accomplished nothing.

Frist is the ideal man to step in. He's only going to be in the senate another 2 years (the length of time for a ML) and then he wants to return to being a surgeon. There is no real worry about him wanting to stay on because if he stays away too long he will lose his skill and everyone knows that he loves being a physician far more than he likes being in the senate. Nichols will be content, McConnell will be content, and Lott has a chance to rehab his image and come back stronger and wiser than before. The ball is in their court, let the best man win.

Oh yeah, and pop some popcorn and pull up a chair because it'll really be fun watching the dems!!!!!

876 posted on 12/15/2002 12:59:26 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: Charlie OK
I would like to take this opportunity to take partial credit for this. ;^ ) I have sent two letters to Nickles in the past couple of months, one when we won the majority, and one just the other day, practically begging him to challenge Lott for the spot. Mission (hopefully) accomplished, I should say!! You're Welcome!! ;^ )

Thanks for your efforts but your not alone. I have been urging Nickles to challenge Lott for the Senate Majority Leader job for the past 3-4 years since the impeachment debacle.
877 posted on 12/15/2002 1:00:45 PM PST by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
What impeachment debacle... the votes weren't there and were never going to be there...
878 posted on 12/15/2002 1:01:44 PM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
There won't be a sharing agreement... Bush wouldn't dare let Lott do it and McCain ain't leaving the party...

Want to put money on either or both halves on that? I'm sure that I can make it to Nevada so it would be all nice and legal.

As for a power-"sharing" agreement, there is no way that Lott will do anything else. Lincoln Chafee (or whoever the Democrats have lined up to leap) will leap by January 3 regardless of Lott's final status, and Lott is simply too damn weak to think of doing anything besides "share" power, especially with this hanging over his neck. Heck, the 'Rats are already demanding equal funding even though they only have 49 votes on paper.

As for McCain leaving, if he's truly interested in ensuring that President Bush is a one-term President (and I think he is), he cannot wait until 2004 to make his move. There is no way that he's going to unseat Bush on the Republican ticket, so that leaves either the 'Rats or a third party. If he's truly interested in occupying the Oval Office as opposed to simply making sure that Bush isn't there come January 21, 2005 (which I think is rather less likely), he has to become a 'Rat. That is going to take some serious "bona fides" creation, one that is going to take better than a year.

Even if he were simply satisfied with just knocking off Bush, he's going ot have to start really separating himself from the Republican Party. As I doubt that there is enough time to do the necessary filings only in 2004, that would strongly suggest that he would need to leave the Republican Party in 2003. Do remember that Bob Smith decided to try a similar route, and he did his bolt (and return) in 1999.

879 posted on 12/15/2002 1:02:15 PM PST by steveegg
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To: marajade
But we have more. Faith Based Initiative, vouchers education welfare reform etc.

We are just wrong about the minimum wage and it hurts time and time again.

Keeping the minimum wage where it is racist as the earlier post right here proves. They don't deserve more than $5.15. Blacks know they are they undeserving ones referred to even if it is not said.
880 posted on 12/15/2002 1:02:16 PM PST by ImphClinton
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