N. Korea Says It's Unilateral Removing I.A.E.A. Nuke Plant Surveillance Cameras at Once (Breaking)

Sankei Shimbun, Tokyo (In Japanese) from RadioPress Reports ^ | 15 December 2002 | Sankei Shimbun News (Japanese)

[AmericanInTokyo]

Breaking hard.

Kyodo news (from Radio Press) reported just now that the Korean Central News Agency (communist Pyongyang) stated that if the I.A.E.A. does not remove the seals and cameras on their nuke plants, they are going to begin immediately dismantling them and removing them.

Koffi Anan of the UN, and the I.A.E.A. chief told them just hours ago not to try and pull this stunt.

Time for the Security Council Meeting.

[Kevin Curry]

Actually, the easiest approach is the one they took: lie, lie, lie.

Self-righteous dimbulb democrats such as Carter are astonishingly easy to lie to successfully.

[polemikos]

Although Clinton is clearly not above being bribed (ask Marc Rich), I don't believe that this is the case here.

You mistake my meaning. In essence, BJ bribed the NK's to keep a low profile for 6 years, until just after his term expired. He gave them $6B in technology and goods as long as they appeared to be good. NK's actual behavior was not verified. BJ successfully postponed the problem to beyond his term using taxpayer money. And now the US (and the world) is faced with a significantly greater problem. This was the obvious outcome at the time, but the press feted BJ and Jimmuh like they were great diplomats. In reality, they placed the US at profoundly greater risk for no other reason, apparently, then their own personal aggrandizement. For this, they should both be roundly and continuously condemned.

[cardinal4]

China wants...China wants,

Read Clive Cussler's Flood Tide. You'll see what China wants.

[kcvl]

Although North Korea took an unprecedented step of allowing 46 American journalists into the normally secretive country to cover Albright's visit, old habits remain firmly in place. The answer to most of the journalists' requests was "not allowed."


It was not allowed to visit a department store.


It was not allowed to go into a train station.


It was not allowed to talk to any officials. And it certainly was not allowed to talk to any people on the street.


In fact, it was not allowed to leave the hotel except to witness officially approved ceremonies.


When a reporter wandered into the street anyway, the message was reinforced by the people. No one approached him. No one was willing to try to bridge a language gap. People looked and then looked quickly away--the sidewalk-survey tactic of avoiding eye contact.

[kcvl]

Madeline Albright settled all of this when she was "leader".

[kcvl]

Albright is delusional...

Secretary of State Madeline Albright stated publicly that the Agreed Framework had abolished North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

U.S. Bears Share of Blame in North Korea Crisis, Experts Say

"I do not want to be seen as an apologist for North Korea," former Secretary of State Madeline Albright said recently at a breakfast with reporters. "What they have done is a terrible and clear violation of several agreements and they ought to stop."

When the Clinton administration left office, negotiations were on track toward new and verifiable agreements "to get rid of their missile technology," Albright said. "Over time we would have moved on the whole range of weapons -- gas, chemical, germs."

The North Koreans expected that the incoming Bush administration would "pick up the cards we left on the table," Albright said. "They did not understand that a change in an administration would change the direction as much as it did."

During the transition, Albright recalled, she and a group of other Clinton officials went to Colin Powell's house to brief the incoming secretary of state and National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice on the North Korean situation.

"My impression was they wanted to think about what they wanted to do," Albright said, "and Powell in particular seemed to appreciate that these were important steps and that there was still work to be done. They chose not to move forward."

The Bush State Department spokesman declined to comment on Albright's remarks.

[Jhoffa_]

Koffi Anan of the UN, and the I.A.E.A. chief told them just hours ago not to try and pull this stunt.

Or, or.. Or else they will.

What exactly?

[kcvl]

Here is a very short list of nonsense about North Korea that should be thrown back in the face of their authors with a resounding, “told you so!”



I look upon this, this commitment by Kim Il Sung as being very important,"
Jimmy Carter
June 15, 1994 after negotiating a deal with North Korea in which Pyongyang confirms its willingness to "freeze" its nuclear weapons program and resume high-level talks with the United States.


(“Axis of Evil”) was very understandable as a rhetorical device to rally the American people to cause against terrorism and to the cause against weapons of mass destruction, which none of us want. What I think was wrong about it in terms of North Korea is North Korea has negotiated successfully with us.

We have a 1994 framework agreement that stops the production of fissile material, which is the plutonium, the kind of plutonium needed to build nuclear weapons. They agreed to that framework agreement.
Wendy Sherman
The NewsHour
Feb. 20, 2002


It has been six years since his father has died. He is in charge of what is called kind of a hermit kingdom. And we had... he listened very carefully. He didn't lecture me. I went through all my talking points with him. And he gave rational answers. And he seems pragmatic. I made a big point of saying that these glasses that I have are not rose-colored. And I've spent my whole life studying communist systems, so I know what we're dealing with. But I think it's really worth exploring.
Madeline Albright
The PBS NewsHour
Oct. 30, 2000


The June 1994 crisis was a turning point in American nuclear diplomacy with North Korea. For three years the United States had tried to coerce North Korea into halting its nuclear arming, and failed. Then it tried cooperation and succeeded. It was a triumph of Track II diplomacy.
Leon V. Sigal
The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists


The second error in current U.S. policy toward the DPRK is misinterpretation. The Bush administration believes that North Korea poses a direct threat to the United States. Like the previously touted Soviet menace, the North Korean threat is inflated.
John Feffer
“Bush Policy Undermines Progress on Korean Peninsula"
Foreign Policy


George Bush is on the verge of making a big foreign policy blunder. Instead of running with the Clinton policy on North Korea, the Bush team appears to be fumbling the hand-off. At the meeting, Bush accused North Korea of not adhering to agreements. When pressed by journalists, he was unable to give details. North Korea has predictably bristled at the new hard line. U.S.-North Korean relations could quickly degenerate into rhetorical one-upmanship.
John Feffer
The Progressive Media Project

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[Chemist_Geek]

I actually did a study of North Korea in graduate school, even before the famines. The Kim family has abused the North Koreans abominably, and now is frightenly threatening to world peace.

My condolences! Obviously, the NK people don't have a clue what their Divine Rulers have them doing, but do they really believe in Kim or are they just getting along?

[kcvl]

[Ken in Eastman]

What we as ignorant conservatives fail to realize is that communists might lie, cheat ans steal from us but never from brilliant liberals such as Carter, Clinton, Gore and Albright. You see those four are FAR too smart to be fooled, so somehow it must be our fault. It's a pity we're not enlightened enough to understand HOW it's our fault. We just have to accept it. Don't we?

I mean Jimmy Carter has won a Nobel Peace Prize and the American media has praised both Clinton and Gore for their pure, towering intelligence. And Madame Albright must be a real brainiac to have just been around Clinton and Gore.

Or, just maybe, Clinton and Gore (just like Carter) were "Babes in the Woods" when it came to foreign policy, making the false assumption that everyone wanted what they wanted (e.g. "We're all alike, right?"). It would also empahsize that Clinton (again, like Carter) never understood that the United States is a special place and that we ARE different. We don't seek dominion, we simply seek to ensure that our rights and liberties remain in place. This is not true of North Korea, China, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan and any organization which contains Yassir Arafat.

[Chemist_Geek]

If I was to take a guess .. we would not have let that ship go if they were .. remember our military were able to board that ship

Point of information: I thought it was the Spanish Armada which boarded So San. I don't know of any direct U.S. military involvement. (Which is probably the way the SEALs want it...)

[Ken in Eastman]

Correct! Two Spanish ships, which were able to identify the North Korean vessel with the aid of our satellites. And, to make our point, we released the path of the North Korean ship, including when it docked at a Chinese port.

[kcvl]

I hope the *itch got enough trophy photos for her memoir...

[Mo1]

Point of information: I thought it was the Spanish Armada which boarded So San. I don't know of any direct U.S. military involvement. (Which is probably the way the SEALs want it...)

Oh Ok .. I may have missed something .. I did read that spanish assisted us .. but I thought our military did board the ship

I guess I was wrong

[Chemist_Geek]

Although North Korea took an unprecedented step of allowing 46 American journalists into the normally secretive country to cover Albright's visit, old habits remain firmly in place. The answer to most of the journalists' requests was "not allowed."

Another interesting point is that North Korea recently from within its borders.