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'Lord' films run rings around the rest because of words
St Paul Pioneer Press / Chicago Tribune ^ | 12/12/02 | MICHAEL WILMINGTON

Posted on 12/14/2002 6:35:39 AM PST by Valin

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To: shaggy eel
Klark returns to Wellington this morning after checking in with Kofi Annan at the UN
in New York. She's a faithful UN servant.

She spends a significant amount of time outside New Zealand.


shaggy eel,
I know your lady P.M. is a socialist...at the same time I must admit that she did
a great job of promoting tourism to New Zealand on the radio interview.
Phone calls from listeners were taken and there was even one fellow who
said he flew (from the USA) to visit New Zealand (and friends there) twice a year
for the past thirty years.
Another caller inquired about the rules for foreign citizens moving to NZ and
setting up a business.

Just my naive observation as an outsider...NZ needs someone with Klark's "gift of gab"...
but a bit more towards "the center" for P.M.

Fortunately, Klark can't significantly mess up what seems to be a wonderful
tourist destination with lots of nice people...

Oh, another tidbit...
Ebert and Roeper (our big-time movie reviews) have declared the second film
of the "Rings" triology to be one of the best good versus evil action films.
I know it's a stretch, but wonder if directer Jackson was influenced in any way by the
events of 9-11 (and afterwards) when he was editing the film.
If nothing else, Mr. Jackson must be helping the NZ budget when all the
"Rings" revenue starts flowing in!
21 posted on 12/15/2002 1:39:44 PM PST by VOA
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To: VOA
,,, Peter Jackson made his first film "Bad Taste" in the mid 1980s on a very low budget. A lot of the scenery in that film was shot in Makara, a hilly wind swept area behind New Zealand's largest suburb, Karori (Wellington). From the outset Jackson's attention to detail when it came to blood and guts massacre scenes was obvious.

His 1990s film "Heavenly Creatures" was first class and a quantum jump in ability. I haven't seen the Lord of the rings movies yet but went on site during construction at one of the location shoots at Kaitoke, north of Upper Hutt. He's spent a lot of time working out the right areas to shoot in.

22 posted on 12/15/2002 2:05:03 PM PST by shaggy eel
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23 posted on 12/15/2002 2:09:19 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Valin
...despite a notable lack of enthusiasm from Tolkien's colleagues in university literature departments...

There's a reason for that. There is no moral relativism in Tolkien's works.

24 posted on 12/15/2002 2:20:08 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Z in Oregon
Haha. I hadn't read your post, but it's odd how we thought the same thing.. maybe not.
25 posted on 12/15/2002 2:22:02 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: MarkL
Vigo pissed me off with his liberal t shirt also - but I have to see the movie anyway....
26 posted on 12/15/2002 2:32:49 PM PST by artios
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To: shaggy eel; Prodigal Daughter; Thinkin' Gal; babylonian; Jeremiah Jr; Crazymonarch; happygrl; ...
Is anyone in that picture straight?

The young kid looks like a homosexual elf with the mesmerizing look of a heading eye dog.  Just right for a movie promoting the occult.  The Bible says Elijah would come and restore all things.  This is a homosexual, OCCULT version.

27 posted on 12/15/2002 3:08:55 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hello, H.O.T.Dog,

I agree with you about the fantasy-fiction thing. It's sad; fantasy-fiction is a very bypassed genre in English Literature departments.

As to the moral relativity thing, I do believe it's true: English Literature departments are incredibly politicized, and they don't mostly look at material in terms of how well it tells a story, but how pointedly it makes a political point that they want made. Such points tend to be far-left and morally relativistic.

Sad. I'd put LOTR and The Chronicles of Narnia on every reading list I could.

28 posted on 12/15/2002 4:13:50 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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To: 2sheep
Is anyone in that picture straight?

The young kid looks like a homosexual elf with the mesmerizing look of a heading eye dog. Just right for a movie promoting the occult. The Bible says Elijah would come and restore all things. This is a homosexual, OCCULT version.

Elijah Wood is straight... and a nice young kid. -And looks like a nice young kid in the photo. Shame on you for seeing homosexual and occult when looking at a pretty normal looking teenager. He's a cutie pie.


29 posted on 12/15/2002 4:23:44 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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All but a few of the Hollywood crowd are either homosexuals or straight homosexualists (promoting the homosexual agenda), anyway: March 28, 2002 - Star magazine reports Elijah Wood hunted down a guy who snapped a photo of Elijah Wood and a male pal at a gay West Hollywood bar called 'Here'. A source said, "Elijah ran after the guy. He was screaming. When he finally caught him, Elijah insisted that the picture be destroyed." A witness said, "The fan looked scared. He didn't realize it would be such a big deal to snap Elijah Wood in a gay bar." (I know, consider the source, "Star Magazine", but sometimes they are more reliable than the lamestream media).

And here he is portraying a "kid" involved in a homosexual (menage a trois) affair:

Entertainment News: Much Moore of Mandy: Squeaky-clean pop princess Mandy Moore (pictured) is joining Britney Spears on the "not-that-innocent" road. In the upcoming flick "Try Seventeen," Moore, the songbird star of "A Walk to Remember," will play a girl who gets involved in an anything-goes threesome with her neighbors, played by "Run Lola Run's" Franka Potente and "Lord of the Rings" star Elijah Wood. The film centers on Wood's character, Jones Dillon, a 17-year-old college freshman who discovers there's more to be learned in his own apartment building than in the lecture hall. In classic Tinseltown fashion, Moore was Wood's real-life paramour prior to the film, but his affections have reportedly switched to Potente, and the two have been an item ever since.

30 posted on 12/15/2002 5:01:42 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
He is not gay. A picture of him in a gay bar is not any kind of evidence except that he is willing to go to a gay bar, for any number of reasons. I know a lot of heterosexuals who have done that.
31 posted on 12/15/2002 5:15:58 PM PST by My back yard
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To: Prodigal Daughter
My word! it must be hard for you guys to follow all the evil that is in the world. Especially when there are so many on your list!

I like the kid in every interview I have ever seen him do. Someone who met him in person agreed. He is a nice, wise for his years, "old soul". He was superb in Lord the the Rings. He seems like a pretty together kid for growing up a child actor.

I don't obsess on people's differences in politics. I refuse to say someone who fails to badmouth homosexuals or [gasp] knows some, is a "straight homosexual". Life is too short, and my own soul is the only one I worry about.

Have you or 2sheep seen any movies lately? I can't imagine any that are pure enough to be seen. So why follow it?
32 posted on 12/15/2002 5:17:02 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Less than 72 hours and I will be there, in line anyway.
33 posted on 12/15/2002 5:17:20 PM PST by My back yard
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To: My back yard
Around 54 hours, 41 minutes for me ;~D
34 posted on 12/15/2002 5:19:29 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: 2sheep
Promoting the occult? Care to explain to me how LotR promotes the occult? Have you read the books or even seen the movie?
35 posted on 12/15/2002 5:33:19 PM PST by JenB
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To: MarkL
Just remember he makes a living pretending to be someone he's not. So when he's acting, he's pretending he's not himself.

Maybe that will help you get through the movie without puking up your popcorn.

36 posted on 12/15/2002 5:36:13 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: HairOfTheDog
So why follow it?

Follow what? Bored with the Rings?

37 posted on 12/15/2002 7:05:39 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Prodigal Daughter
Bored with the Rings, yes... and Elijah Wood... and the purity of actors in Hollywood... Why do you follow all this trivial news if you don't like it?
38 posted on 12/15/2002 7:17:32 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; ecurbh; Valin
Say, is there anywhere online that the screenplay of Fellowship and Two Towers can be downloaded or bought? Preferably the extended version with TFOTR, but either way.
39 posted on 12/15/2002 9:12:44 PM PST by Z in Oregon
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Screenplay? This site has a really nicely formatted version of the script, and she says that the Extended Edition script is coming soon...

The Seat of Kings - Home to the first LotR FotR Movie Script on the Web

I have it in a word document that I downloaded from somewhere, but I can't now remember where.

40 posted on 12/15/2002 9:29:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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