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To: NonZeroSum
Bush sees himself as the first Republican president in a generation to campaign explictly for black votes – a campaign compromised by Lott’s indiscretion.

Bush got all of 9% of the black vote in 2000, which is particularly pathetic when you realize that even a KKK grand wizard would have gotten about 5%.

There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

5 posted on 12/13/2002 10:32:48 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

It isn't about getting them to vote Republican. It is about placating white suburban women and keeping down the overall black turnout.

7 posted on 12/13/2002 10:37:57 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Alberta's Child
When it comes to minority outreach for the party, Bush has no peers. He expanded the Republican share of minority voters quite a bit in his Texas re-election bid, without the usual giving away of the store that liberals demand.

He should be furious with Neville Lott for undoing all his efforts, and I am sure that he is.

8 posted on 12/13/2002 10:38:07 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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Is there a place left on the web that has a live audio feed of Rush? I was using the station in Chicago but they quit the feed. Thanks.
9 posted on 12/13/2002 10:38:08 AM PST by kipj
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To: Alberta's Child
Bush got all of 9% of the black vote in 2000, which is particularly pathetic when you realize that even a KKK grand wizard would have gotten about 5%.

There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

It's not just minority voters we will lose because of Lott. White voters will not support what they consider to be a racist party. If I as a rabid conservative Republican think that Lott makes us look racist, what do you think the middle-of-the-road folks who decide elections think of Lott and the GOP?

Lott has already badly bloodied the party. He has to go NOW.

12 posted on 12/13/2002 10:47:00 AM PST by inkling
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To: Alberta's Child
There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

I agree to a point, but Bush and the pubs have a historic opportunity to crack the destructive union between blacks and Democrats.

Also, if Bush can get some choice into the Social Security funding, then anyone with a job will become an investor. This is a wonderful trojan horse that will blossom for many into real wealth and a sense of independence from the government. Look, the dems have bullied the pubs for several generations with the social security club and labeling pubs as secretly opposing retirement security for seniors, if the pubs can push through some private accounts provisions it lays the foundation for an issue to bludgeon the dems with for the next few generations as the party that opposed retirement choice (and security) for seniors.

If Bush and the pubs can push for a much more meaningful school choice initiative they can drive a hard wedge between the teacher union and its money on one side and the blacks and their 90% voting block for dems. Heretofore, the democratic leadership has been able to avoid this issue. In 2001, Bush was desperate to get something passed in a congress that neither respected nor feared him and thus he compromised some on this to get his overall bill passed. Now, the situation is ripe. Consider: Bush is now a hugely popular president who is very respected (or at least feared) in congress. He also now has pub leadership and control of the agenda in both houses. He has already passed his education bill, so the entire thing no longer hangs in the balance to be filibustered by the school choice issue. After his economic stimulus bill is passed, look for him to start to a major initiative on school choice. This issue is HUGELY popular among black parents. And I am not merely speaking from a tactical perspective, school choice SHOULD be a wedge driven between the two groups in the democratic party that idealogically are very much at odds.

If the dems can constantly take the focus off the education and equal opportunity issue by using Lott as a two-year foil, Bush will have a much harder time getting his message above the racial pap that masquerades as democratic moral outrage these days.

28 posted on 12/13/2002 11:14:21 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush
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To: Alberta's Child
There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

This comment takes my breath away. It's not in the same league as Trent's remarks, but it's quite offensive nevertheless.

30 posted on 12/13/2002 11:16:34 AM PST by mombonn
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To: Alberta's Child
There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought and who continuously toe the Democratic Party line regardless of which candidates are involved.

Perhaps but when you start at 5% it doesnt take very much of an increase to be significant, especially since the Dems need every Black vote to have a chance of winning.

Further if you have a President like Bush who is becoming less and less threatening to Black Americans, you are less likely to see high levels of voter turnout like you would if the candidate was David Duke or Jesse Helms. Bush was demonized in 2000. It will be much harder for the Dems to repeat in 2004. Between 9/11, Condi Rice, and Bush's speech yesterday, many Blacks will not feel the venom that they did in 2000.

45 posted on 12/13/2002 12:10:28 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Alberta's Child; Chancellor Palpatine
There is absolutely no sense in reaching out to voters who are incapable of independent thought...

See what I mean, CP? I'm not seeing the worth of even trying anymore with "fellow conservatives" like this.

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70 posted on 12/13/2002 8:57:34 PM PST by rdb3
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