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To: vtel57
Be happy to.

Here is how I see it ----

"Ideology" definition: a body of ideas that reflects the beliefs and interests of a nation, political system, etc. and underlies political action.

This definition fits islam to a T.

1) Islam, has militaristic connotations - a body of ideas that reflects the beliefs and interests of a nation, political system, etc. and underlies political action.

2) Muslims also believe in the inherent goodness of people as over against the Christian doctrine of original sin - all you need to be "saved" is to be Muslim - unlike the notion of original sin which requires a Christian to struggle for grace.

3) Muslims need guidance and that guidance is the Islamic law, an all encompassing system that controls every aspect of everyday life.

"What is needed is a Muslim government to provide the legal and social framework necessary to facilitate submission to the law. There is no separation between the sacred and the secular, between church and state. This community is one, universal, and cohesive..."

From Dr Samuel Schlorff, "Can you explain for me the Mindset of the Islamic Terrorist?" Arab World Ministries, 2001

Since its origins - islam/ or Mohamed's revenge on Jews and Christians and anyone who does not submit - has used force - violent military action - subjugation, enslavement, mass atrocities, and genocide even to this day - to achieve its goals.

75 posted on 12/13/2002 8:25:10 PM PST by eleni121
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To: eleni121
So, as I see it here... you (as a Christian, I'm assuming... and if I'm incorrect in that assupmtion, I apologize) are saying that your views and beliefs are right and the Muslims' views and beliefs are wrong. Is that accurate? If so, your line of thinking is EXACTLY the type of thinking that leads to the death and chaos that I've stated is brought about by organized religions in this world. That type of stance perpetuates the "us" vs "them" problem that has plagued mankind since the beginning of time. This just proves my point that religions widen the rift between us rather than bring us together.

Regards,

V.T. Eric Layton
***Tempus Fugits***
vtel57@softhome.net
76 posted on 12/13/2002 9:35:50 PM PST by vtel57
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