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To: Balto_Boy
Hitler's lieutenants were acting on his direct orders.
False.

Hitler did, however, provide an environment devoid of legal repercussions and geared by propaganda towards results like Babi Yar, and those results would not have been possible without Hitler - he didn't order, much less know about the massacre on September 3rd, 1939 of some 55 Polish peasants in the village of Truskolasy, but he is nevertheless ultimately responsible.

Same same with Milosevic and Srebrenica - he doesn't have to have been there, he doesn't have to have ordered it: Setting the Bosnian Serbs in motion back in 1992 while fully knowing their methods and supplying them with men and supplies throughout is enough. No Slobo, no Srebrenica. It wasn't Karadzic at Dayton, it was Slobo, for he, not anyone else, provided Mladic and Karadzic with what they needed to cleanse the RSK of the Serb's version of untermenschen.

Ultimately, yours is a straw man argument. Consider it knocked down, with the ultimate responsibility for Srebrenica and the uncounted smaller massacres in Bosnia still resting at Slobo's feet.

Let's confine ourselves to this one issue before delving into your Bin Laden fantasies, shall we? I've already thrashed Destro numerous times on the matter, and it's quite a bore by now.

29 posted on 12/20/2002 5:45:57 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite; Fusion; Destro; wonders; ABrit; vooch; Voronin; F-117A; getoffmylawn; Supercooldude; ...
You flagrantly disregard the fact Karadzic and Mladic would have been arrested and you know it. The only reason Slobo was invited is they knew he would sell the RS out to lift the sanctions. That explains the fact Krajisnik had zero say in any decision Slobo came to, on behalf of the Serbs. You ever hear of the incident between Krajisnik and Holbrooke that occurred in the far room?

Karadzic had no choice but to accept Slobo on his behalf. During the Dayton talks, Momcilo was on the wanted list but delayed for a number of years til they had fabricated lies to arrest him without question. You fail to grasp, as always, the fact behind closed doors in regards to the Serbs.

All you and your pet, Destro has, are little links to "verify" your cloutless "proof". The disbelieving truth can not be found on these links provided by these "so-called reporters" Christianne "Minnie Mouse saves Sarajevo" Amanpour (marriage to Clinton PR spokesperson), your Sudetic friend (Croat who abhors the Serbs), Wm Safire, Martin Sugarman (I have a tape recording when he was "invited" to so-called speak at a Muslim Student Organization open forum. Open only to his views, as he shut me out of any further questions when I challenged his "proof" with my own visual proof to discredit and embarress his ass on public stage. Boy!!! You should have seen his eyes widen right up when I told him where I just returned from 72 hours previously. HEHEHE. "I cant talk with you, you are out of control" word for word. How so? I jotted down each of is lies on paper and began the process of correcting him with some visual fact and some limited eyewitness account and first-hand accounts from a few credible Serbs. Total humiliation of him as you humuliate yourself on this worldwide forum.

Prior to your providing links, know what the heck you are talking about. Prijedor, geesh, you have no idea what happened there, do you? What about Petrinje and/or Glina, boyo? Tell me what happened there? Better yet, lets go round and round with Srebrinca and Gorazde, lets do? Hoplite, you are just a whiny man who needs to resurrect your own self-ego by laying putdowns on others.

31 posted on 12/20/2002 7:17:22 PM PST by smokegenerator
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To: Hoplite
False. Hitler did, however, provide an environment devoid of legal repercussions and geared by propaganda towards results like Babi Yar, and those results would not have been possible without Hitler - he didn't order, much less know about the massacre on September 3rd, 1939 of some 55 Polish peasants in the village of Truskolasy, but he is nevertheless ultimately responsible.

With all due respect, you're dead wrong. Hitler ORDERED his troops to wage a brutal campaign against the Russians, and he wasn't disobeyed. That he didn't order or know about this one massacre doesn't mean they weren't following his DIRECT orders.

Same same with Milosevic and Srebrenica - he doesn't have to have been there, he doesn't have to have ordered it: Setting the Bosnian Serbs in motion back in 1992 while fully knowing their methods and supplying them with men and supplies throughout is enough. It wasn't Karadzic at Dayton, it was Slobo, for he, not anyone else, provided Mladic and Karadzic with what they needed to cleanse the RSK of the Serb's version of untermenschen.

So why did this escape Clinton in 1996 and the Hague investigators now? You still haven't answered that.

Ultimately, yours is a straw man argument. Consider it knocked down, with the ultimate responsibility for Srebrenica and the uncounted smaller massacres in Bosnia still resting at Slobo's feet.

That is not my argument, nor am I actually making one one way or another. That was the conclusion of the Hague's investigators, and apparently of the Clinton administration in 1996. I have just posted what others said.

Let's confine ourselves to this one issue before delving into your Bin Laden fantasies, shall we?

Nope. If you have something to show that this and this are wrong, I want to see it.

34 posted on 12/21/2002 7:03:18 AM PST by Balto_Boy
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To: Hoplite
Seems you are very desperate lately as you feel the need to come up with this childish 'Hitler same same Milosevic stuff'.
35 posted on 12/21/2002 11:09:44 AM PST by DestroyEraseImprove
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