White House Says Senator Trent Lott 'Should Not' Resign

CNN ^ | December, 12, 2002 | Wolf Blitzer

[ewing]

Wolf Blitzer said word has come down from the White House that Trent Lott should not resign as Senate Majority Leader and that his apologies are good enough.

Nothing on what the Republican National Committee might say tomorrow..

[Poohbah]

A ride in a wheelchair will not make a story take off.

The only guy responsible now has his own Kneepad Brigade right here on FR.

I used to think that Republicans were about more than saving our own a$$e$ at any price.

I've learned a Lott this week.

[Poohbah]

Fine. I will.

The fool who chooses to follow a fool is the bigger fool of the pair.

[bybybill]

When I was learning how to make good decisions by the USMC, an old Gunny told me to try to "measure the ground after what you decides happens". It was good advice. What will happen after Lott is dumped? Will our cause be stronger? Will we get the judges we need? Will the charge that Republicans are racists be validated? Why don`t you slow down, stop calling people that disagree with you idiots, and try to look at the consequences of dumping Lott.

One more thing, I ain`t your pal

[Texasforever]

Strom Thurmond getting elected President on the Dixiecrat platform in 1948 would have saved us a lot of problems. Just try me, pal.

Nope, I didn't say that things would have been better I just pointed out that today is no better and this time blacks have no one to blame but themselves but they still do.

[Poohbah]

When I was learning how to make good decisions by the USMC, an old Gunny told me to try to "measure the ground after what you decides happens".

Fine. Lott sits as a back-bencher. That is what happens.

It was good advice. What will happen after Lott is dumped?

He sits as a back-bencher and votes.

Will our cause be stronger?

Yes.

Will we get the judges we need?

Yes.

Will the charge that Republicans are racists be validated?

No.

[Texasforever]

Yes, you did. Now either prove it, or admit that you're just another sheethead with a family tree of 100% cousins.

Every post I made is on here so pick one to prove it. It didn't take you long to deal the card did it?

[BenR2]

Fine. Back your facts up RIGHT F'ING NOW. Demonstrate, in detail, how Strom Thurmond getting elected President on the Dixiecrat platform in 1948 would have saved us a lot of problems. Just try me, pal.

How about: (1)Lower levels of Federal spending (hence, lower taxes); (2) Far less Federal Government intervention in local affairs (hence, more liberty); and, (3) a more patriotic, God-fearing legacy.

Refute me. (Unless you worship at the altar of the Federal Government God.)

[Poohbah]

Lott said nothing racist except to those that view all southerners as racist.

There's your statement.

Saying that someone running on an explicitly racist platform should have been elected is saying something racist.

Now kindly defend Lott's statement in full, because you're the guy saying he said nothing wrong.

[Poohbah]

That's not in detail, pal.

Put some meat on those scrawny bones. Consider second and third-order effects.

[BenR2]

A ride in a wheelchair will not make a story take off.

Are you saying that Drudge didn't pump the story for all its worth?

Are you saying that ride in the wheel chair didn't help the story grow legs?

Look: We disagree on this point. Nuf said.

[bdeaner]

I pretty much agree with what you have to say. However, I take issue with your statement here:

Also, I wouldn't characterize Lott's gaffe as a shovelful, more like a spoonful. The Democrats are making hay with it. They run the risk of over-reaching.

Before any criticism by Democrats or otherwise, I heard Lott's statement and was utterly appalled. It felt more like a shovel than a spoon to me. I couldn't believe my ears.

[Poohbah]

Are you saying that Drudge didn't pump the story for all its worth?

He's got an eye for spotting which stories will take off, and looking like he's the one who made it happen.

Are you saying that ride in the wheel chair didn't help the story grow legs?

Yes, I am.

Wheel chair rides do not make one's legs stronger.

[BenR2]

That's not in detail, pal. Put some meat on those scrawny bones. Consider second and third-order effects.

You suddenly have a lot of "pals" around here who disagree with you.

Why don't you try not issuing orders to defend things "in detail" to the "second and third-order effects."

I'm not posting an article. I'm posting comments to one. How about telling me where I'm wrong with my basic statements?

Besides, how can we debate the second- and third-order effects of an Administration that never existed. (All would be speculation.)

Finally: Are you a liberal? You seem to exude an air of moral superiority in this discussion. What makes you so superior? Because you are able to look down your nose at Lott?

[bybybill]

Yup, lets dump Lott, you have convinced me. Why shouldn`t we agree with the Rats that most southern whites are racist. I mean, who needs the South, we can always get new voters in Oregon or maybe New York.

If we let them get away with this, no Republican is safe from being Borked.

[Texasforever]

Now kindly defend Lott's statement in full, because you're the guy saying he said nothing wrong.

Because he did not say anything remotely racist except to those whose ears are forever tuned to hear racism every time a white republican dares open his mouth.. I am sick of the professional victims and I am surprised to see a lot of freepers in that group. I don’t have to defend Lott’s remarks because to any fair ear there is nothing to defend. You made the charge so post the “Dixiecrat” platform and let’s all take a look at it.

[bdeaner]

Sure if every dot connection ALWAYS leads to racism and that is the only connect the dot picture the race industry ever draws.

Let's be reasonable here, okay? I agree that the hypocritical dems are constantly making mountains out of molehills when it comes to Replublicans and making molehills out of mountains when it comes to their own. That's their nature. And thank god we're not like them, I say.

But are you seriously trying to convince me that Lott's statements were only very loosely tied to issues of race? That this is merely the dems "playing the race card" yet again? If so, I think you need to go back and read Lott's statement again. He said as plain as day that if Thurmond had been President when he ran in 1948 -- a race that any idiot should know he ran on a segregationist platform -- we'd be better off today.

Now, you tell me, is Lott a racist or is he just stupid? Either way, he shoved his foot so far in his mouth that he kicked his own ass right out of being majority leader. We can't blame this one on the dems playing the race card. This is the political equivalent to the winner of the Darwin awards.

[Poohbah]

Finally: Are you a liberal?

No. I am a conservative Republican who has put up with Lott's ineptitude for six frickin' years.

You seem to exude an air of moral superiority in this discussion. What makes you so superior?

Because I am morally superior to someone who consistently sabotages Republican efforts, and to those who suddenly decide to defend him.

Because you are able to look down your nose at Lott?

No, my moral superiority comes from understanding the nature of moral duties--and one of those duties is to competently execute the tasks of those posts I volunteer to serve in. If I find that I am unable to perform them, I merely step down from the post or posts in question.

It's an exceedingly simple concept.

And it has completely eluded the mental grasp of The Vacant Lott.

[Texasforever]

But are you seriously trying to convince me that Lott's statements were only very loosely tied to issues of race?

I am not trying to convince you of anything I am trying to get someone to post the racist words he used that I cannot find.

[Poohbah]

Because he did not say anything remotely racist except to those whose ears are forever tuned to hear racism every time a white republican dares open his mouth

Please explain to me how saying that someone who was running on and intended to carry out an explicitly racist platform should have won that election is not a racist statement.