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***REV. PETERSON TO SENATOR LOTT: “DON’T GIVE IN TO RACIST DEMOCRATS!***
BOND (Brotherhood Organization of A New Destiny) ^ | 12-12-02 | Ermias Alemayehu

Posted on 12/12/2002 10:26:02 AM PST by NewDestiny

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To: Howlin
so rats win again as normal!
41 posted on 12/12/2002 11:45:42 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Grut
"Well, yellow me! Republicans who fail to call for his resignation are displaying exactly the same blind loyalty to 'our side' that Clintonistas did."

Bah humbug. It isn't against the law to say what Lott said. And as far as the racial sensitivities of the race baiters and race whores, let them go pound sand. As much as I dislike Lott, I'm not about to throw him to the wolves over some dumb comments that have been taken completely out of context.

42 posted on 12/12/2002 11:53:02 AM PST by Reactionary
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To: Howlin
Explain the position of Jesse Lee then.
43 posted on 12/12/2002 11:54:20 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Howlin
>>>Lott just issued a statement AGREEING with Bush.

I've already heard about that and made a comment on another thread. I don't care! This is bigger then Bush and this is bigger then Lott. But it goes to show just how much Lott wants to play in the new arena of Republican political correctness. Sickening!

And to your earlier remarks made to me. I called for Trent Lott to step down, following the loss of the Senate last year. I also gave partial blame for that political fiasco to PresBush and was thumped by many of the saintly FReepers around here. If I remember correctly, you even joined into that chorus too.

44 posted on 12/12/2002 11:56:48 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: TLBSHOW
I don't have to.
45 posted on 12/12/2002 11:57:00 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Reagan Man
Lott was at a birthday party and made a few stupid comments.

His comments went way beyond stupid. For cryin' out loud, the Dixiecrats were one of the most despicable political movements in this country's history. Among other things, they opposed a federal law banning LYNCHING. They and their ilk forever tainted the noble concept of state's rights by trying to wrap it around their racist positions. And Lott said we might have avoided some "problems" if the rest of the country had followed Mississippi's lead and voted for Strom. That's just insane. Someone that dense, that oblivious to history and political sensitivities is not qualified to be the party leader in the Senate.

46 posted on 12/12/2002 11:58:34 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: twyn1
>>>He did this in front of a VERY enthusiastic audience with many minorities present...

That's exactly why he included those remarks. Bush played President Panderbear today. Rev.Peterson is right on this one and Bush is out of line!

47 posted on 12/12/2002 12:00:34 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
I have never, ever SAID that Lott should remain as majority leader. Never.

And as I said, let him run in January, not just assume the position. Let the SENATORS decide if they want Lott to lead them.

48 posted on 12/12/2002 12:02:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
Explain the position of Jesse Lee then.

I would hope that Peterson would be above trying the moral equivalence approach. I really don't care to use the actions of Jesse and Al as any kind of benchmark for conservative leaders, other than as a general guide to what we should NOT be doing.

49 posted on 12/12/2002 12:02:51 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Reactionary
And it should be mentioned that if the idea of segregation was put forward by the black leadership, well, nary a peep would be heard from the same people who are making such a stink now.

We know how the game's played, folks. If Lott steps down and keeps his seat, this will become an even greater issue. They'll demand his resignation from the Senate. They'll probably even demand much more. We know we can't win with them; we can't prove our committment to the egalitarian ideal in such a way as to have them leave the issue alone. So why give them what they want? After all, it won't do us a bit of good if we do.

50 posted on 12/12/2002 12:03:57 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reagan Man
So what exactly was Bush supposed to do ? -- the media is having a feeding frenzy over the "Lott issue" -- Bush is making his first public appearance since it all "blew up" -- was he just supposed to give a standard speech and hope nobody said anything ? Esp. a speech in front of a largely minority audience ? I don't call this pandering -- I call it damage control -- and damned good damage control at that ! He obviously is pissed at Lott (who is an idiot), but he hasn't called for his resignation as ML -- Lott is a big boy who needs to take his medicine -- I hope that he can get through the mess in one piece.
51 posted on 12/12/2002 12:08:38 PM PST by twyn1
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To: dirtboy
This is real simple. This isn't about the Dixiecrats! That was 1948 and this is almost 2003. This is all about the liberal establishment seeing an opening and taking advantage of an opportunity to blow a minor event out of proportion. This is America's liberal elites spreading their political correctness and employing their race baiting tactics for political gain. You've fallen for their rhetoric and their efforts. Too bad.
52 posted on 12/12/2002 12:10:16 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: dirtboy
Oh, yes, "political sensitivities" are indeed a major issue to democrats (who don't vote for us) and for blacks (who don't vote for us, either).

And you're missing the context. The speech was made at a birthday party. It was a joke. And, as we all know, jokes are not supposed to be taken seriously.

How Republicans have been tied to the Democratic South with this little speech should be the subject of an entire book. When Thurmond was running, you couldn't find a Republican in the South. And this is somehow *our* problem?

Liberals want to make it our problem, sure, but it wasn't then and it isn't now.

53 posted on 12/12/2002 12:11:24 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: Reagan Man
Who will be the next target of a rat attack? The rats want Lott gone. That is the bottom line.


54 posted on 12/12/2002 12:14:53 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW
For the record -- I don't think Lott should resign as Majority Leader at this time -- I was one of his 'defenders' on most of the hysteria threads yesterday. I do think he should step down after the fuss dies out -- only because he will be a big fat target once the election cycle heats back up.
55 posted on 12/12/2002 12:15:12 PM PST by twyn1
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To: Reagan Man
This is real simple. This isn't about the Dixiecrats! That was 1948 and this is almost 2003.

Look, Lott was the one who resurrected the issue. Not the Dems.

This is all about the liberal establishment seeing an opening and taking advantage of an opportunity to blow a minor event out of proportion.

No, this is about conservatives taking responsibility for mistakes, and not acting like democrats and blaming the other side, downplaying the transgression or playing the moral equivalence game.

This is America's liberal elites spreading their political correctness and employing their race baiting tactics for political gain.

I'm sorry, but saying that the Dixiecrats and segregation was dead wrong is hardly PC, and saying that Lott was insane for even going down this particular road is hardly PC, either - hence the disgust voiced by commentators across the political spectrum.

You've fallen for their rhetoric and their efforts. Too bad.

You've resorted to their tactics. Sad to see.

56 posted on 12/12/2002 12:16:43 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: twyn1
>>>So what exactly was Bush supposed to do ?

He should not have made it sound like he was in agreement with the rhetoric being used by the liberal establishment. But that's exactly what he did. Bush came across like he was an outraged Democrat. Under the circumstances, I would have appreciated it, if the President would have kept his mouth closed and not gave credence to the political correctness or race baiting tactics of the liberal elites. And it was pandering, plain and simple.

57 posted on 12/12/2002 12:18:17 PM PST by Reagan Man
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To: TLBSHOW
Who will be the next target of a rat attack? The rats want Lott gone. That is the bottom line.

Actually, Tommy Daschle was doing his best to help Lott out. Most of the Dems LIKE Trent Lott. But the condemnation of Lott's comments has come from across the political spectrum, and the only defense I have seen is from folks trying to play the moral equivalence game. Sorry, I don't care to get down and play on that level.

58 posted on 12/12/2002 12:18:26 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Reactionary
Oh, yes, "political sensitivities" are indeed a major issue to democrats (who don't vote for us) and for blacks (who don't vote for us, either).

I really don't care what they say. I care about what Lott said, both the actual words and the incredible lack of sense he displayed in uttering them.

And you're missing the context. The speech was made at a birthday party. It was a joke. And, as we all know, jokes are not supposed to be taken seriously.

Some do. Jokes have a long history of blowing up in the face of political figures. Ask James Watt. Or Bert Lance. Two figures with big mouths and poor judgement, and they paid for it.

How Republicans have been tied to the Democratic South with this little speech should be the subject of an entire book. When Thurmond was running, you couldn't find a Republican in the South. And this is somehow *our* problem?

Once again, LOTT RESURRECTED THIS. This wasn't a Democrat making a baseless claim - it was a leader of the GOP making a very, very, VERY idiotic statement.

Liberals want to make it our problem, sure, but it wasn't then and it isn't now.

It is our problem only if we try to deny, obfuscate and equivalence it away, like the Dems did with the Clintons. And the Dems paid dearly for that.

59 posted on 12/12/2002 12:21:55 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: TLBSHOW
I don't know who will be next on the list for the liberal establishment to get rid of. But if they are successful in removing Lott from either his leadership position, or more importantly, from his Senate seat, these PC, race baiting tactics of the liberal elites, will be employed over and over. Mark my words! They've done it before and they'll do it again.
60 posted on 12/12/2002 12:22:31 PM PST by Reagan Man
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