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Policy resolved on origin of life
Cleveland Plain Dealer ^ | 12/11/2002 | Scott Stephens

Posted on 12/11/2002 3:19:35 PM PST by jennyp

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This is perhaps the best article so far about yesterday's Ohio standards vote.

Here are some other articles, as reported by Creation/Evolution: The Eternal Debate:

1 2002-12-11 [Ohio] Evolution challenge muted
2 2002-12-11 Evolution advocates hail vote
3 2002-12-10 Ohio School Board OKs Science Standards
4 2002-12-10 Ohio Praised for Historic Decision Requiring Students to Critically Analyze Evolutionary Theory
5 2002-12-10 School board approves science guidelines that include evolution
6 2002-12-09 Theory of evolution will face test in vote
7 2002-12-09 New standards may change little in classroom
8 2002-12-06 State board split on science standards

1 posted on 12/11/2002 3:19:35 PM PST by jennyp
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To: Junior; VadeRetro; PatrickHenry; Physicist; longshadow; ALS; nanrod
Crevo-in-the-schools PING.
2 posted on 12/11/2002 3:20:27 PM PST by jennyp
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To: dd5339
I.D. ping
4 posted on 12/11/2002 3:28:11 PM PST by Vic3O3
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To: jennyp
Meanwhile, disclaimer people have targeted Louisiana next.
5 posted on 12/11/2002 3:34:02 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: nanrod
Sounds like the guy missed his calling by about half a century; he should have been Hitler's minister of science.

"Judge, and prepare to be judged."
    - Ayn Rand

6 posted on 12/11/2002 3:48:00 PM PST by jennyp
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To: jennyp
sad bump
7 posted on 12/11/2002 3:55:30 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: *crevo_list; RadioAstronomer; Scully; Piltdown_Woman; LogicWings; Doctor Stochastic; BMCDA; ...
[This ping list for the evolution -- not creationism -- side of evolution threads, and sometimes for other science topics. If you want to be included, or dropped, let me know.]
8 posted on 12/11/2002 5:00:20 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: jennyp
"The board made a clear statement and said 'no' to pseudo-science,"

Well I'm releaved. That ought to remove any ID or creationism from the classroom.

I used to support Christians, because I think the lifestyle of most of the Southern Baptists I grew up with is superior. But this argument about creationism, which I was taught in church to be inaccurate, has hardened me against christians in general. Mainly because of the bull-headedness and un-Christlike attitude of many ID and creationism supporters.

I just wonder how Christians would like it if "criticisims of religion", like criticisims of evolution, were taught in school. It's easy to come up with bogus arguments against things. The flat-earth people have some pretty good arguments that can convince someone who doesn't know much about the subject.

9 posted on 12/11/2002 5:07:54 PM PST by narby
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To: jennyp
Your links are all busted, except for the one to your page. Are there specific criticisms of evolution being required?



10 posted on 12/11/2002 5:07:58 PM PST by Sabertooth
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I'll never let my kids go to a government school.

Well, I let them use the soccer field and playground.

Just so long as they pay the teachers and administrators no attention whatsoever.

11 posted on 12/11/2002 5:29:44 PM PST by billorites
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the whole point of government schools is to teach kids evolution, condoms, the dangers of global warming, etc. If kids aren't learning evolution then how can we expect them to be liberals in the future??
12 posted on 12/11/2002 5:49:01 PM PST by arielb
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If kids aren't learning evolution then how can we expect them to be liberals in the future??

I've been participating in these evolution threads for more than three years, and I pretty much know the people on the evolution side. Not one is a liberal. How do you account for that? Do you think it's possible -- maybe -- that your beliefs about evolution are wrong?

13 posted on 12/11/2002 5:57:05 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: arielb
Evolution is a left wing conspiracy! Wow, thanks for the heads up. Did you know those evil liberals have infiltrated every discipline of biological science? I feel like such a fool!
14 posted on 12/11/2002 6:12:14 PM PST by Youngblood
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Evolution is a left wing conspiracy!

It's amazingly dumb. If I were inclined to apply evolution to politics -- which is a goofy idea -- I don't think I could make it jibe with the welfare state. But let the creos make their wild accusations. It only reinforces the perception that they don't do too well in the abstract reasoning department.

15 posted on 12/11/2002 6:18:25 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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just as they have infiltrated environmental science.
The fact is that most liberals believe in evolution. That's why Gore and ACLU are on your side instead of Bush. They are afraid of any measure that encourages private and homeschooling because they can't impose their evolutionary theory on children who leave the public schools.
16 posted on 12/11/2002 6:37:25 PM PST by arielb
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To: PatrickHenry
More small minds who ought to go and jump off the flat end of the earth.
17 posted on 12/11/2002 7:06:53 PM PST by stanz
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To: arielb
I homeschool and my children will be and have been taught evolutiong since day one, not that it is fantasy, not that it is disproven or whatever. They are taught the TRUTH, it is a scientific theory that is being added to every day and is as close to the true facts as can be put together at this time.

I am not antireligious by any stretch, just call me A-Religious.

Science has a place, and religious mythology has it's place. Science in a classroom, whether at home or in a public school. Religion in church.

My children will also grow up to be conservative, just as I have.
18 posted on 12/11/2002 7:46:16 PM PST by Aric2000
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To: arielb
The fact is that most liberals believe in evolution. That's why Gore and ACLU are on your side instead of Bush.

Nobody who believes in God could conduct themselves the way Klinton and many of the democrats do.

19 posted on 12/11/2002 7:51:48 PM PST by annflounder
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