Posted on 12/11/2002 10:56:29 AM PST by Destro
I have stopped reading the anti-muslim-terrorist-propagandafull-Isreali tabloid of Debka.
Something happend in Macedonia last year but it was not Internationaly sponsored Muslim terrorism.
NATO is fully responsible to what happend in Macedonia and NATO and the OSCE were/are in full control of the situation.
The handfull of terrorists last year were about to be defeated if it wasn't for NATO and the internal traitors like Trajkovski forcing the government to stop all action and to start negotiations and sign a peace deal.
The situation is similar now in Ivory Coast.
Europe was split in Macedonia. The Americans and the British fully supported the Albanian terrorists while the Germans although supported Albanian action in Kosovo they thought it would stop there. On few occasions the German base near Tetovo was under Albanian mortar attack. And this was not due to error but intetional attacks.
The Germans were the only ones that gave significant military help to Macedonia before and after the conflict. German help was about 60 BTR-70 APCs, 150 Hermelin APCs, trucks and other hardware. They were going to transfer 150000 G-3 rifles but this was vetoed by "someone" in NATO.
NATO and America saw the seeds of terror in the Balkans and now they want to come in as liberators. America created the Taliban and now they are liberators in Afganistan.
No wonder the Germans don't support them.
As for that story of a guy with a AK on his back shopping at Vero it is bullshit. In Skopje NATO soldiers wearing arms are cautioned and not many civilians walk around with guns.
The combined NATO intelligence apparatus as well as those from friendly countries is in full swing and very focused , the latest al Qaeda to be terminated in Yemen is a fine example of this.
Fusion I wonder what the al Qaeda types were thinking when that CIA drone incinerated that Senior al Qaeda, member and his car load of buddies in Yemen with one of those HellFire missiles. Their was not enough left for the buzzards to eat. Do you suppose that al Qaeda are looking in their rear view mirrors a little more closely these days? That was one clean, classy, concise, but kicking operation that’s got to have those remaining fanatics loosing a bit of sleep. Someone has got their shit together fusion and its being brought close to home. If Osama is alive I'm sure he is looking up a lot.
You forgot to mention one important development, in your doom and gloom article that this B.B.Q. took place in Osama's back yard, the country of his origin, the wastelands of Yemen. Can the war on terror not get any closer than that?
Now as an American you strangely seem to really hype up the terrorist side by building a false perception that the rest of the civilized world are done fore. You don't seem interested in giving the U.S. and her allies credit for some righteous payback on these cowards, remember September 11?
These Islamic extremists have no problem killing innocent women and children contrary to what the Holly Koran states i.e. what Muslims should not do to innocent none Muslim people during a Jihad. Cowards in the pure sense of the word that have manipulated a religion to suite thier evil purpose and never the less you support and propagandize for them?
What is it you want Fusion, the destruction of the Western culture? Why are you so motivated in supporting these cowards, does being an American and living in an open free society not mean anything to you?
On a side note it is very entertaining to see Latif Gashi’s buddies getting arrested on a regular basis to face mass murder charges in front of an International Judge and not one of those local paid off/ intimidated Albanian judges. The Kosovo mandate continues to clean up the scum.
You are right about one thing Fusion the party between the KLA and NATO (including the US) is almost over. The U.S. and Serbian relations continue to improve and I anticipate the Serbs returning to Kosovo once the KLA start shooting UNMIK police in the back as was done near Racak. Thaci’s favorite tactic remember?
P.S. Do you celebrate Independence Day?
NATO did NOT act on its own. The clinton administration was the main driving force!
The impotent Eurowhiners
Same as with the breakup of Yugoslavia, the big dog rules the pack. The EC initaly voted 11-1 against the breakup. By the time Germany was done, they were all in favor. The UK was given certain concessions for their vote, as were some others. Some were probably just intimidated by the recently Unified Germany.
Susan Woodward's book, Balkan Tragedy, goes into it a bit.
I believe you are mistaken in claiming I hype the opposition side. The somewhat near hysterical rantings in this forum are extremely one-sided in rah-rahhing the West while providing a much slanted view of the reality. If the forum is a cheerleading contest that is one thing, but if it tries to offer understanding and analysis then the neutral view is proper.
You also are wrong to call the enemy "cowards." This is a huge blunder and you should know it. These Eastern Holy Warriors battle the strongest entity in the history of the world and do it with a focused fatalism that Western civilisation tries to match but is unable to do so...
Perhaps you too have seen the death squads work. One thing that stays in my mind is the difference between seeing the Muslims and Christians die in that type of op. When they know it is time the Muslims are most stoic and die with a quiet dignity. For all their "faith" the Christians are usually screaming and crying.
No doubt in my mind who fears death and who does not...
However, this is about the defeat of the West and not personal observations...
The names Dunnigan and Nofi would not be familiar to you. Dunnigan has written many books and used to be a NBC "analyst. Yet in their earlier days they developed new methodologies in the field of Games Theory that brought about a short Golden Age in this metier before being eclipsed by the modern computer era...
Increasingly few remain from this era (Your good friend Hoplite would perhaps been one if not for his youth -- although more an AH than an SPI grognard. Allusions to this once with him concerning the "classic 3-1" were met with references to Army FM's instead of the respective simulations)
They say as a very young teenager Mr D was one of those pizza eating, soda drinking beta-testers that gathered during the Nixon era to integrate these theories into crude (by today's standards) simulations for the Pentagon during Vietnam. The Dunnigans and Nofis (and to a degree the Prados and such) often preached how the battle or campaign hung on the slenderest of unidentifiable threads -- even in what appeared to be hopeless mismatches...
"Find those threads," Dunnigan would often remark. That was the key to understanding the fight before it occurred and the bst way to set a conclusion vector during the early stages...
You mention the recent Yemen op. Too much hype there Wraith -- the whole thing jazzed up just too much and too many people congratulating themselves on this "coup." The other "coups" don't smell right either. It seems now more like the 17th century when Spanish pirates board neutral shipping on the high seas as happened with the missile fiasco.
Plenty of hype at first and then extensive backpeddaling...
Calling a spade a spade is not hype or propagandising. And as mentioned, if you think these folks are cowards then you are edging yourself toward the same abyss as the rest of your colleagues.
The Islamic Entente would have been unable to defeat the West two years ago, but now maneuvers their opposition into a killing ground where their smaller numbers have a chance of winning. "Western civilisation" in this decade means an interlocking system of financial shell games designed to keep the people from understanding that there is no Western economy...
This is why the Islamic entente shrugs off attacks like Yemen. The West wants to kill their soldiers (just breeding more) while the opposition seeks to collapse the teetering world wide economic structure -- the life-support system for the West...
American oil refinery capacity is strained now. It still seems the Islamic entente will strike the American oil jugular in and around Houston when they are ready to topple the West...
And as mentioned, the irony is that the West funds these operations through the Balkans. You really should learn more about that Hippo Bank "purchase" of Krystal Banka if you want to unravel a few threads...
You are correct about Kosovo though. UNMIK now showing some teeth which is most disturbing to those that seek independence for the province. The relative calm there now is but an illusion -- but the valiant Kosovo Liberation Army (like so many others around the world) understands the current "war on terrorism" is weakening the West. They can reconstitute cadres and recruit new members while being paid by the West to do so...
But what happens when the money is gone?
I think we once compared notes and realised we were both in Kosovo on Flag Day in November 1999. Do you not remember the gunfire and celebrations that day? Do you not remember the Serb professor killed by the mob?
Do you not remember the uneasiness with which you and your international buddies stood around the OSCE building early the next morning? It was cold that Sunday remember Wraith as gunfire -- less celebratory but more intense -- echoed through the streets of Prishtina that morning?
Remember that weekend Wraith and what and who you saw then. If your memory was good you could find some of the answers you look for...
Ultimately the analyst must remain neutral in the fight to garner true understanding and to be able to make unemotional judgements. All the bands and cheerleaders in the West are bought and paid for by the central government now.
The hype on this "War on terror" looking like the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III -- as phony a favourite as you are ever likely to see. Osama bin Laden no "Broadway Joe" at the Fountainbleu Hotel -- but his "guarantee" of victory last week sending the Eastern Holy Warriors into a frenzy...
Didn't see that on CNN now did you? He's been dead less than a week but Mr D's old mentor Roone Arledge surely turning over in his grave...
The modern day Bismarck had better wakeup and start rolling toward Iraq or the West is toast...
The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.
When they know it is time the Muslims are most stoic and die with a quiet dignity. For all their "faith" the Christians are usually screaming and crying.
How do you know this Fusion? Did you see footage of people in the world trade center as it was collapsing, the Pentagon as it burned, or are you just fantasizing?
An empty promise I believe Osama still recovers from his near scrap with death in Afghanistan. The CIA drone in the Yemeni desert was a clear reminder that Osama will be hitching a ride with one of the four horseman very soon and believe me they are riding.
Fusion the U.S. has been warned by these Islamic extremists to convert and submit to Islam. I look around and the only thing I see is a line drawn in the sand. George W. will get his war and it will not stop in Iraq there is no way it can. I'm sure you heard that the U.S. are prepared to use tactical nukes a clear message to those who you beleive have Alah's suitcase be it nuclear or biological. I can see it now as the mushroom cloud rises near Bagadad, the Iranians are puting their western made sunglasses on and wondering what next?
As for Hoplite and the age issue, I'm sure you were following my exchange with the boy? Its seems he got a lesson on perception and how perception can be manipulated into a desired result. Havn't heard anything since.
I think we once compared notes and realized we were both in Kosovo on Flag Day in November 1999. Do you not remember the gunfire and celebrations that day? Do you not remember the Serb professor killed by the mob?
Do you not remember the uneasiness with which you and your international buddies stood around the OSCE building early the next morning? It was cold that Sunday remember Wraith as gunfire -- less celebratory but more intense -- echoed through the streets of Prishtina that morning?
I remember Flag day 1999 very well fusion and I have to admit a lot of Nato and UN heads were low and staying out of the way of that wild party. The Serb Professor was truly a tragedy all he had wanted to do was take his child to the Pristina hospital. Shot in the head by one of the party goers. Why he did not go to the Russian field hospital at Kosovo Polje is a real mystery because that was the direction the professor came from? Do you know what happened to the car Fusion?
As for the next day a lot of hangovers and not much gunfire in Pristina around 0600 hours, that all happened the previous evening and into the early morning hours.
As a mater of fact I was hanging around the OSCE building when a AK 47 round landed square on the roof of a white vehicle not 10 meters from where I was standing made a nice dent. Kept it as a souvenir. Did you know that 4 Albanians bit the dust that night, some scores were settled I believe and of course a lot was learned. Making those accountable was always on the table and with the KLA thugs it took a little longer. Was the priority from day one.
Fusion of course Thaci was in town with the rest of the Drenica crowd. You do recall the sports center before it mysteriously burned to the ground? Wonder what happened there. Smoldered for weeks.
Well Fusion good to see your back posting on FR. Last I heard you were posting on some other site using a new handle.
Oh by the way the US is not using Iraqi Oil any longer Venezuela seems to be taking up the slack and as of to day the prices have dropped. Lets see if Venezuela folds into Chaos then the US will be importing more oil from Russia. Iraq will become a bonus both for the liberated Iraqi people and for the West. What will the rest of the Arab world do. Qatar seems to have taken a side.
The north Korean freighter containing those hidden scud missiles and headed for you know where Yemen the location of the most recent BBQ. With Yemen's reputation for supplying arms you wonder what country in reality has purchased them. Has put the Yemen Government in spot. I'm sure they will be watching where they go, I know I would be.
I believe he has adopted the handle Fusion based on the Intelligence term Fusion Cell. A fusion cell was operating in Kosovo. You may have to talk to Wild Willy Walker about that. Fusion know to many places in Kosovo that I know and have seen. He was there. Fusion knows all about the Red door not far from the Grand Hotel. It was behind this door that I meet Latif Gashi for the second time. Now he is in jail, never liked the dude anyway.
Fusion I believe has some connections in Kosovo and from what he has posted, some of his info is credible. You sometimes have to read between the lines. Some of his stuff is right out their but as you know people seem to always reply. No from his point of view you don't burn a source so that may explain the very cryptic way he posts. A bit of a journalist I believe and as you know they deal with sources of info.
I don't agree with fusions support of the KLA and he understands where I am coming from when I call them scum. Two sides to this sword that’s why we are on FR and as you know makes fusion a very colorful character to deal with..
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