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LOTT SAID IT BEFORE (Drudge Siren)
Drudge ^ | 12/10/02 | Drudge

Posted on 12/10/2002 6:58:42 PM PST by walrus954

After a fiery speech by Thurmond at a Mississippi campaign rally for Ronald Reagan in November 1980, Lott, then a congressman, told a crowd in Jackson: "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

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To: P-Marlowe
When all you've done and said doesn't work, resort to namecalling.

The Stupid Party? Well, stupid is as stupid does. Today the Senate, the House, The Presidency and the Supreme Court belongs to the stupid party.

What does that make everyone else that don't agree with us?
501 posted on 12/10/2002 11:30:23 PM PST by swheats
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To: ApesForEvolution
long before you FRemailed that link to me

that was cheese in a rat trap!

Night ratty rat,,,,,,

502 posted on 12/10/2002 11:30:35 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Poohbah
I agree that Lott is a spineless and inept leader. He always caves to the RATS. It's time for him to sit quietly in the corner and shut up. We need an intelligent and assertive leader in the Senate. I only want him to stay in office to retain the pubby control of the Senate.
503 posted on 12/10/2002 11:42:32 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: walrus954
Does Drudge's siren make noise? LOL it is a light and we all call it a siren.
504 posted on 12/10/2002 11:43:18 PM PST by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: habs4ever
I agree with you Habs.

Drudge is the one that made this a big deal.

I personally could care less what Lott said. If what he said made the Dims mad...great!
505 posted on 12/10/2002 11:44:21 PM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: All
This is a tough one, folks - what to do, what to do? The PR hit taken here of the entire GOP cause because of some stupid comment is huge. Sure, it's being blown way out of proportion and is simply a tool used by desperate liberals in the media and politics. But nontheless Lott said it, twice apparently, and it looks like this isn't going away without someone's head on a platter. How can Bush and other leading Pubs defend him without getting stained too? The libs don't ever let up on these things, hypocritical as they are. Look what they did, and are still doing, to John Rocker, that guy will never inhale a breath of fresh air again.

Do we throw Lott overboard, concede temporary defeat, to avoid this thing going on and on? I agree with most here that Lott has been a pathetic leader and I wouldn't miss him. But we do need his vote in the Senate, and make no mistake, the Dem strategy behind this is to get one Senate seat closer to majority, not just replace the majority leader.

One more wicked thought - is it possible some conservatives helped move this story along secretly, perhaps even from way up high, to stealthly get Lott's sorry butt out of power, without an ugly fight? I do know that Bush tends to turn these seeming Dem victories into his own.
506 posted on 12/11/2002 12:04:41 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: All
This is a tough one, folks - what to do, what to do? The PR hit taken here of the entire GOP cause because of some stupid comment is huge. Sure, it's being blown way out of proportion and is simply a tool used by desperate liberals in the media and politics. But nontheless Lott said it, twice apparently, and it looks like this isn't going away without someone's head on a platter. How can Bush and other leading Pubs defend him without getting stained too? The libs don't ever let up on these things, hypocritical as they are. Look what they did, and are still doing, to John Rocker, that guy will never inhale a breath of fresh air again.

Do we throw Lott overboard, concede temporary defeat, to avoid this thing going on and on? I agree with most here that Lott has been a pathetic leader and I wouldn't miss him. But we do need his vote in the Senate, and make no mistake, the Dem strategy behind this is to get one Senate seat closer to majority, not just replace the majority leader.

One more wicked thought - is it possible some conservatives helped move this story along secretly, perhaps even from way up high, to stealthly get Lott's sorry butt out of power, without an ugly fight? I do know that Bush tends to turn these seeming Dem victories into his own.
507 posted on 12/11/2002 12:05:19 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: All
This is a tough one, folks - what to do, what to do? The PR hit taken here of the entire GOP cause because of some stupid comment is huge. Sure, it's being blown way out of proportion and is simply a tool used by desperate liberals in the media and politics. But nontheless Lott said it, twice apparently, and it looks like this isn't going away without someone's head on a platter. How can Bush and other leading Pubs defend him without getting stained too? The libs don't ever let up on these things, hypocritical as they are. Look what they did, and are still doing, to John Rocker, that guy will never inhale a breath of fresh air again.

Do we throw Lott overboard, concede temporary defeat, to avoid this thing going on and on? I agree with most here that Lott has been a pathetic leader and I wouldn't miss him. But we do need his vote in the Senate, and make no mistake, the Dem strategy behind this is to get one Senate seat closer to majority, not just replace the majority leader.

One more wicked thought - is it possible some conservatives helped move this story along secretly, perhaps even from way up high, to stealthly get Lott's sorry butt out of power, without an ugly fight? I do know that Bush tends to turn these seeming Dem victories into his own.
508 posted on 12/11/2002 12:06:05 AM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: Howlin
Yep .. I believe you are correct
509 posted on 12/11/2002 12:10:12 AM PST by Mo1
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To: walrus954
After a fiery speech by Thurmond at a Mississippi campaign rally for Ronald Reagan in November 1980, Lott, then a congressman, told a crowd in Jackson: "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

If this was such as 'RACISTS' statement, why did not one person make a fuss about it back then.......because this is such a stretch.

510 posted on 12/11/2002 12:22:05 AM PST by Always Right
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To: walrus954
Edward Kennedy, a Democratic senator from Massachusetts, drove his car off a bridge and killed his passenger, Mary Jo Kopechne. If his name hadn't been Kennedy, he would have gone to prison for manslaughter.

Daniel Inouye, a Democratic senator from Hawaii, reportedly raped a woman.

Joe Biden, a Democratic senator from Delaware, is a plagiarist.

Barney Frank, a Democratic congressman from Massachusetts, had a gay prostitution ring in his basement.

Jim McDermott, a Democratic congressman from Washington state, passed a recording of a phone conversation (that had been made without the participants' knowledge) to a newspaper. One of the participants in the phone conversation was Newt Gingrich. McDermott's action was a felony under state law.

Hillary Clinton, a Democratic senator from New York, reportedly called a Jewish political advisor a "fu**ing Jew ba**ard." Her husband, Bill Clinton, repeatedly referred to the black vote as "the ni**er vote."

Jesse Jackson called Jews "Hymies" and New York City "Hymietown." Louis Farrakhan called Judaism a "gutter religion."

But let's go out and lynch Trent Lott.
511 posted on 12/11/2002 12:53:48 AM PST by CenterRight
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To: All
I wish to make clear from the outset that I am no fan of Sen. Trent Lott as Majority Leader. What he said was ill-mannered and wrong. But according to liberal doctrine, he should be left alone simply because he "apologized." That will get murderers and drug dealers and felon presidents sympathy, but apparently not someone who misspoke about **gasp** racism. A member of the black community (I was in the kitchen at the time so I couldn't tell who it was) came on the TV in a fiery tone and said "We can't have this." Can't have what? Freedom of speech? The ability to apologize when we say something wrong in that freedom? What happened to innocent until proven guilty, at least until we understand motive (D.C. snipers)? What happened to "leaving a person alone" because "he's already been through so much" and "feels terrible" (Clinton)? Maybe if Sen. Lott would go on Oprah and talk about his feelings of sorrow or go to an anger-management course or take a page from Clinton and talk about how his hard life was: "Listen, folks. The winters were cold. The summers were hot. We all had bad breath, no money for mouthwash...There was body odor. Grandpa had plantar's warts and bunions. Mother got yeast infection. For six months ah lived in a garbage can...There were people in Hope who considered my garbage can a mansion (Boy Clinton, page 48)." I can see people dabbing their eyes even as I type! But that "easy-out" is only for liberals. Se. Lott should step down for being an ineffective leader, but not for something rediculous like this.
512 posted on 12/11/2002 1:00:51 AM PST by scott7278
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To: sinkspur
If Bush whips Saddam, and the economy's growing, that ad will still kill us. Both of those held for the original President Bush, and Clinton won without the political weapon of mass destruction Lott just handed the Democrats.

Here's what happens if Lott doesn't go. They run the ad Travis McGee described. This results in, in ascending order of badness: the black vote goes from 90% Democrat to 99% Democrat; black turnout goes through the roof; undecideds ALL go Democrat; the GOP base stays home. Nuclear holocaust for the Republican Party. You might not notice this much in your particular social circle, but most folks really don't like racism.

You are, as Orwell would say, objectively pro-Democrat. Even if you're right about Lott being a petulent brat, you're pro-Democrat. Better to lose the Senate now than the Senate, the House, and the Presidency two years from now.
513 posted on 12/11/2002 1:37:15 AM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: walrus954
Who cares? RATS are reduced to this -- nothing else to bitch about.
514 posted on 12/11/2002 3:58:05 AM PST by jrlc
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To: CenterRight
Well said, sir. Funny how the hysteria and calls for resignation only apply to Republicans, you know?
515 posted on 12/11/2002 4:15:42 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: A.J.Armitage
It is impossible to increase the democratic black vote here in PA. The numbers do not support it. HOWEVER< IF anybody has the courage to admit that what Lott said is TRUE! they could split the black democratic vote bo half or more. Go to philadelphia and tell a black man he is getting a fair shake. He will laugh at you. The reason for this is because the democrats used welfare to get the votes without fixing the problem of a disenfanchised people. Crime in black schools goes unreported...Their leaders are theives and they still are disenfranchised to some extent because their vote is expected to be democrat even though they do nothing to help fix the problem. This is an absolute goldmine for Bush if he uses this to turn the spotlight of responsibilty to the people on whom it belongs....I wish I had time to develop this further.
516 posted on 12/11/2002 5:00:18 AM PST by Shanty Shaker
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To: Howlin
I think that is right. And wasn't the invitation more a "bait" to lure him and he turned them down?
517 posted on 12/11/2002 5:03:01 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: BuddhaBoy
The media is doing a great job villifying Lott.
My criticism of anything Lott said would not even be a drop in the bucket.

However the media makes little mention of its lefty cronies racism - a racism that is extremely sinister in that it enslaves people in bondage to the goverment master who gives the government handout - all the while sapping their initiative and secretly loathing them all the while (to the point of exterminating them in massive numbers via racist abortion).

Since the media won't discuss such racism, I will.



518 posted on 12/11/2002 5:42:47 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: sinkspur
"Do right by his party"? What the hell does that mean?

That means he can act like a man, and finish out his term, rather than picking up his toys and going home, which would make him look like even more of an idiot anyway, IMO.

... but jump on a Republican Senator who was just trying to pay tribute to an old man!

Yeah, I know. It's only about sex. Yawn.

519 posted on 12/11/2002 5:52:43 AM PST by Darling Lili
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To: A.J.Armitage
Well, you're entitled to your opinion. I just don't think most Americans believe Lott is racist, but I do believe most Americans believe the screaming banshees in the Black Caucus are racist and will use race at the drop of a hat.

You're wrong about X41 by the way. The reason he lost is not because of blacks but because of the PERCEPTION that the economy was in the ditch and the he didn't care.

You're hysterical about the reaction to this two years from now.

If it wasn't Lott, these race pimps will make up another James Byrd ad. It's what they do.

520 posted on 12/11/2002 5:53:05 AM PST by sinkspur
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