LOTT SAID IT BEFORE (Drudge Siren)

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[walrus954]

After a fiery speech by Thurmond at a Mississippi campaign rally for Ronald Reagan in November 1980, Lott, then a congressman, told a crowd in Jackson: "You know, if we had elected this man 30 years ago, we wouldn't be in the mess we are today."

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[mikeb704]

(Was Thurmond a Democrat or Republican before he ran as a Dixiecrat?)

Strom was a Democrat. Finding a Republican in the deep South at the time would be like trying to find an honest Democrat anywhere today.

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[Poohbah]

The man did apologize ..

If you believe that he apologized, then you're a complete moron.

And if I offended you (but I really shouldn't have, only idiots get offended), I apologize.

There, did that sound like an apology?

[winin2000]

The last time I heard the old, "I wouldn't stoop to actually debate you," schtick, it was by some sissy-boy in satin britches trying to avoid a fistfight on the playground.

I feel fine, and unlike some people, I don't post on message boards surrounded by people who believe as I do to feel better about myself, I seek out people I disagree with for fun. Enjoy the news cycle.

So happens I was a regular on that Maoist cesspool called "Salon Table Talk" for some time until they started charging for the privilege. And I did it long enough to learn that only intellectual cowards dismiss a challenge ostensibly "too easy" for them.

[jwalsh07]

Lott only knew Thurmond from the Senate. He was 7 years old in 48. What's so hard about that? Lott was referring to the man he knew in the senate, not the Dixiecrats, not segregation and not racism.

He was referring to the man he came to know and admire in Washington DC, a man far removed from 1948 SC.

[Mo1]

You may have something there ..

[ApesForEvolution]

It isn't Lott's rights we are talking about. He can say whatever he wants, but it will cost him leadership if he doesn't handle his repsonsibilities appropriately.

[TLBSHOW]

I do! But everyone is so wraped up in the spin that they are all blinded by truth.

[Texasforever]

I have a strong feeling that a democrat senate is not that unsavory to many on this "conservative" forum.

[jwalsh07]

What on earth are you talking about? Not having Lott as Senate majority leader doesn't change the makeup of the Senate -- Republicans would still hold a majority, no "power sharing" necessary.

You're hopelessly naive.

[ApesForEvolution]

Lott's list of allies in the GOP in DC has been shrinking by the hour...and it wasn't very large going into last weekend.

[P-Marlowe]

If Lott were to resign from the Senate merely because he's no longer fit or qualified to be the Leader of the Senate then he is not only Stupid but he is EVIL!. I think sinkspur thinks that Lott is just that kind of man. Makes you wonder why Sinkspur would think so highly of him. Birds of a feather?

[jwalsh07]

It's another thing to explicitly advocate the resumption of chattel slavery because "it would have prevented so many problems wev'e experienced since then."

I think you need a break Poobah, I'm starting to have trouble distinguishing your remarks from Peter Jenning's.

[ApesForEvolution]

If you were Lott's spokesman, you would have just made the case against him. It's not about America, it's not about the GOP...it's about Lott. That's his #1 problem, always has been. Lott, the has-been GOP Senate Leader.

[MJY1288]

Not only that, But the media knows that Lott is not a big hit among Conservatives and by pushing this NON-STORY it becomes a tool for them to try and divide us. We fall for it everytime. It reminds me of the 450 "Amnesty for Illegals" articles the NYT's have written in the past two years in an effort to drive a wedge between conservatives. To this day I have yet to hear or see a single quote or a single pice of legislation that calls for blanket amnesty or anything close (But that's another story)

This kind of witch hunt by the left reminds me of the story of the Sailor who dislikes his Captain and he also one who keeps a journal of his daily experiences, One day the Sailor writes "The Captain is sober today" and yet the fact is that the Captain has never had a drink in his life. It's the impression, NOT the facts, that tarnishes the Captains character. The RATS have been playing this game very well for years and we dumb ass republican fall for it everytime

[deadskunk]

Well, that's not surprising that it doesn't make sense. I don't really fit in with this crowd, if you didn't notice. My main point is that racism (both ways) is a bi-partisan issue, and most black people notice when black people aren't present.

Bush and Rove know this and have Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice up front and center, both qualified and respected black leaders who put a multi-cultural face on the Republican Party. The RNC would do well to follow their lead when they go to recruit candidates.

Look at Bob Ehrlich and Michael Steele...they took freaking Maryland, and the fact that Steele was black certainly didn't hurt.

Republicans like Bush and Ehrlich, who demonstrate that they aren't racist, are rewarded with moderate swing votes...Republicans that don't usually aren't due to this stigma which Trent Lott has seemingly justified.

[Poohbah]

I think you need a break Poobah, I'm starting to have trouble distinguishing your remarks from Peter Jenning's.

Then lay off the bong.

[ApesForEvolution]

About what?

[sinkspur]

What's going to give out first, your head or the wall?

What about you? You're fighting a lonely battle here too?

I've got two days of meetings, and I won't miss this place one damn bit.

Maybe people that I admire will come to their senses by Friday.

It is really hard to understand how ordinarily rational conservatives cannot see what the agenda is, and how this will play out if Lott is forced to resign.

Sometimes I think these people have a political death wish. Just when the GOP gets into a position to positively affect the country, they're willing to flush it all because they finally see some way to get Trent Lott over impeachment, or over whatever weaknesses he has displayed.

Phil Gramm's my kind of Senator; I really don't care personally for Trent Lott one way or another. But I'd tell Sheila Jackson Lee to kiss my big bu** before I would allow spaceship-head to force me to leave over an innocent remark.

I expect Sheila Jackson Lee to get hysterical; I don't expect Poohbah, and Travis McGee and others on this site to lose all sense of proportion over a tribute to an old man!

[puroresu]

"It is one thing to express support for James Madison and how he helped move this Republic forward.

It's another thing to explicitly advocate the resumption of chattel slavery because "it would have prevented so many problems wev'e experienced since then.""

How very liberal of you to put words in Senator Lott's mouth! Your analogy is a complete and total misfire, and I think you know it.

Did Senator Lott say that "resumption of segregation would have prevented so many of the problems we've experienced since then"?

No, he did not.

Case closed. His expressed opinion about Senator Thurmond was no more racist than my expression of admiration about the genius of one of our founders.

But the day is coming when such expressions will be condemned just as surely as Senator Lott's remarks. It's coming, and you're hurrying that day along by going along with this Politically Correct charade.

[ApesForEvolution]

Which is how Lott can redeem himself and stay in the Senate but NOT as Majority leader, at least until Haley Barbour (hopefully) is elected Gov. of Mississippi in the fall of '03 and takes office Jan. '04.

What is this, the entire GOP is now being held hostage by the spineless, dumba** Lott???!!!!. If that's the case, then Lott can leave the country for all I care. We'll make a deal and bring someone else over from the other side of the aisle.