To: NormsRevenge; Travis McGee
ugh....incrementalism on gun rights keeps creeping along.
The statuatory minimum for any felon (non-violent or otherwise) for gun possession outside of black powder or antique weapons(this'll be next) is 5 years which means 4.5 years served since the Feds have no parole.
I think around 3-5% of American males are felons and the majority of those are non-violent. Then throw in restraining orders, prior domestic abuse or any other local reason to terminate someone's RKBA rights and any US attorney and his underlings can have a veritable field day with this.
I believe California just approved that any felon is liable to have their home searched for guns whenever if they have proof that at anytime that perosn once owned a gun.
Scary.
Congress cut funding to the ATF to process felon's gun rights restoration in 1992 and I doubt anybody is going to carry that water now. And now SCOTUS has sealed shut the only option which was to get a personal waiver from a local Fed judge.
Some states automatically restore gun rights to non-violent felons after parole. Guess one had better not get caught with that state and local legal firearm by a Fed LEO. Vexing issue.....if they can't simply outlaw guns, they will outlaw gunowners...it'll take a bit longer but in the end the results will be the same....and they'll have all these tasty stats about "felons with guns" to march out when need be.
Thanks NRA...well done.
Pardons anyone?...lol
5 posted on
12/10/2002 11:41:04 AM PST by
wardaddy
To: wardaddy
It is scary, with
Project Exile etc especially. But history doesn't move in straight lines, and the entire applecart can be overturned in the future, especially if there is a huge terrorist act etc.
To: wardaddy
What a hose job...
To: wardaddy
I think around 3-5% of American males are felons 12% of Americans are now felons according to The Economist.
Incidentally, the definition that Scalia uses for felon is: A serious crime punishable by death.
Less than half of the Americans convicted of felonys ever serve time.
To: wardaddy
Guess one had better not get caught with that state and local legal firearm by a Fed LEO. There is already at least one case where the Bubba-2 so-called Justice Dept is doing a federal prosecution on a convicted felon who had a state pardon and bought a new gun at a gun shop. There was a thread about it here on FR a couple of weeks ago.I think it is safe to say it wasn't one of Bubba-1's OR Bubba-2's convicted felon friends. Bubba-1 gave HIS convicted drug-dealing felon friend a federal pardon,so the feds can't go after him.
To: wardaddy
if they can't simply outlaw guns, they will outlaw gunowners...it'll take a bit longer but in the end the results will be the same....and they'll have all these tasty stats about "felons with guns" to march out when need be. That's exactly what they are doing
66 posted on
12/10/2002 3:46:28 PM PST by
watcher1
To: wardaddy; STD; NorthernRight
Even in a socialist rathole like Canada a reformed felon can own a gun
It's routine for the government of Canada to issue a "certificate of rehabilitation" to any felon who has been law abiding for 4 years or longer.
The application process is not overly complicated nor time consuming
With this certificate and ex felon can apply for a Firearms Acquisition Certificate ( FAC) with the FAC he can buy and own a gun
In this respect Canada treats it's citizens better than we do.
BTW You can legally own a handgun in Toronto or Montreal. Try that in Chicago, or New York
69 posted on
12/10/2002 5:16:05 PM PST by
watcher1
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