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1 posted on 12/10/2002 10:56:29 AM PST by Dallas
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"Southern Poverty Law Center, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the American Civil Liberties Union"

talk about your axis of evil
2 posted on 12/10/2002 10:59:15 AM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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"He said the federal courts have no authority to order him to do anything Alabama law doesn't require him to do. Whatever views Moore has about this, federal law is supreme."

I think that the opinions of Mssrs. Scalia and Thomas, members of both a certain court and a certain Federalist Society, might carry a bit more weight here than the known liars at SPLC...

3 posted on 12/10/2002 11:00:39 AM PST by dirtboy
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"Federal district courts have no jurisdiction or authority to prohibit the acknowledgment of God that is specifically recognized in the Constitution of Alabama," Moore said in a statement announcing the appeal.

Good. Let's get rid of the "Freedom FROM religion" thing once and for all!

4 posted on 12/10/2002 11:00:44 AM PST by concerned about politics
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the country has suffered a moral decline over the past 40 or 50 years as a result of federal court rulings, including those against prayer in public schools.

Absolutely !!!! I love this guy.

7 posted on 12/10/2002 11:05:24 AM PST by concerned about politics
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Now this is interesting and the type of judicial statement that if defeated at that level will probably end up in the Supreme Court. If we can get about 2-3 more conservative Judges, they will agree with Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who argued, "Federal district courts have no jurisdiction or authority to prohibit the acknowledgment of God that is specifically recognized in the Constitution of Alabama," Moore said in a statement announcing the appeal."

Great, if they want to ban God let them do it at the local levels, and then smack it down if it goes up in the judicial system.

8 posted on 12/10/2002 11:05:38 AM PST by Grampa Dave
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U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson's order found the monument violates the Constitution's ban against government establishment of religion

Amendment I:

Congress

Was the U.S. Congress involved?

shall make no law

Did anyone -- let alone the U.S. Congress -- make any law?

respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

With all due respect, "Judge," I think you're the one attempting to make a law, here.

12 posted on 12/10/2002 11:11:45 AM PST by newgeezer
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To: Dallas; 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr; Prodigal Daughter; crystalk
Chief Justice Roy Moore filed notice Tuesday in federal court that he will appeal a judge's order that he remove a monument to the Ten Commandments from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building.

It's as if someone is trying to pull the mezuzah off of his doorpost.

Los Lunas, New Mexico, United States:

>>>Cyrus Gordon (1995) proposes that the Los Lunas Decalogue is in fact a Samaritan mezuzah. The familiar Jewish mezuzah is a tiny scroll placed in a small container mounted by the entrance to a house. The ancient Samaritan mezuzah, on the other hand, was commonly a large stone slab placed by the gateway to a property or synagogue, and bearing an abridged version of the Decalogue. Gordon points out that prosperous Samaritan shipowners were known to live in Greek communities at the time of Theodosius I circa 390 A.D., and proposes that the most likely age of the Los Lunas inscription is the Byzantine period.<<<

http://economics.sbs.ohio-state.edu/jhm/arch/loslunas.html

The Ten Commandments monument designed by Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Roy Moore is pictured at the State Judicial Building in Montgomery, Ala., in this Aug 7, 2001, file photo.

God bless Chief Justice Roy Moore.

17 posted on 12/10/2002 11:25:20 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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The First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The "Establishment Clause" constraint is clearly placed upon Congress, not the states. In fact, any law made by Congress constraining the states with respect to religion would be in direct violation of this amendment and therefore null and void.

"I think what we heard today echoed of George Wallace," Cohen said. "He said the federal courts have no authority to order him to do anything Alabama law doesn't require him to do. Whatever views Moore has about this, federal law is supreme."

This echoes of Reconstruction and violation of state sovereignty by the federal government. Unless (and even if) Cohen wishes to make some lame application of the "elastic interstate commerce clause", his claim that "federal law is supreme" in this case is unfounded. Federal law is NOT supreme where the federal government does not have jurisdiction.

Chief Justice Moore is right, and Mr. Cohen is dead wrong. The U.S. Constitution specifically and clearly excludes the federal government from jurisdiction over matters of religion, whether pro or con. By contrast, according to Chief Justice Moore, the Alabama State Constitution has no such prohibitions.

According to this article, the cause for action given by the Southern Poverty Law Center, Americans United for Separation of Church and State and the American Civil Liberties Union is that "the monument violated the constitution". What constitution are they referring to? This case, and others like it, should be non-starters.

While I don't personally advocate the incorporation of religion or religious documents into government at any level, I must acknowledge the U.S. Constitution and the primary importance of protecting it above all else. I am sworn to do so.

18 posted on 12/10/2002 11:26:21 AM PST by Imal
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I hope the govt. has to bring troops to take it down.....Moore, don't lose your toughness on this.
33 posted on 12/10/2002 12:07:14 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson's order found the monument violates the Constitution's ban against government establishment of religion and gave Moore 30 days to remove it.

I find that Judge Thompson's order violates the Constituition's ban against government prohibiting the free exercise of religion. So there. ;-)

39 posted on 12/10/2002 12:26:24 PM PST by Chemist_Geek
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U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson's order found the monument violates the Constitution's ban against government establishment of religion and gave Moore 30 days to remove it.

The U.S. Constitution only refers to the federal government's "ban against government establishment of religion". It makes no reference to what the states can or can't do regarding religion.

78 posted on 12/10/2002 2:45:43 PM PST by judgeandjury
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"I think what we heard today echoed of George Wallace," Cohen said"

No, Cohen, you infintesible organism, what we hear today is an over reaching, oppressive, Federal judiciary that would make Stalin green with envy, backed by a lawless, over reaching Federal monstrosity busy grinding under it's heels, and actively attempting to slip the chains of the Constitution that grants them "limited" authority.

84 posted on 12/10/2002 3:11:32 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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What is the latest news on Judge moore and the Commandments?
102 posted on 02/06/2003 5:33:57 PM PST by Cato Uticensis
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