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Imperial shuns sale, roils water picture
Sacramento Bee ^ | December 10, 2002 | Stuart Leavenworth and Dale Kasler

Posted on 12/10/2002 9:05:14 AM PST by farmfriend

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:46:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

EL CENTRO -- In a stunning move that could lead to a statewide water crisis, Imperial Valley officials Monday rejected a controversial proposal to reduce their water use and sell the excess to San Diego.

Capping weeks of anguished debate, the board of the Imperial Irrigation District voted 3-2 against the proposed water sale, declaring it wouldn't sacrifice Imperial's economy to keep coastal California afloat.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: environment; government; water
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1 posted on 12/10/2002 9:05:14 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Carry_Okie; Grampa Dave; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; christie; ...
ping
2 posted on 12/10/2002 9:05:49 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Good for them.
3 posted on 12/10/2002 9:08:40 AM PST by expatpat
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To: farmfriend
BTTT!!!!!!
4 posted on 12/10/2002 9:09:56 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: farmfriend
Concern over fresh water supply is becoming increasingly common in our nation due to pressures from drought and population growth. Our coastal states are frequently evaluating the viability of desalination systems to provide their fresh water needs. Desalination is an energy intensive process, so it is quite common for these facilities to be built in close proximity to electric power plants. For this reason, it is also reasonable to consider the use of nuclear desalination as a potential option.
5 posted on 12/10/2002 9:25:50 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: farmfriend
bump
6 posted on 12/10/2002 9:26:07 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: farmfriend
Good for the Imperial Valley farmers!

BUMP!
7 posted on 12/10/2002 9:37:42 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
This is the San Diego County try to steal the water from Imperial Valley. I hope that they shut the water off.
8 posted on 12/10/2002 9:51:48 AM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: Jimbaugh
IID also is the eastern Coachella Valley's power company - NOT on the grid, so we're immune to rolling blackouts. Everything to the west of us - Palm Desert, Palm Springs, etc., is powered by Southern California Edison, who's rates are approaching double what IID charges. This scenario alone appears in most home-for-sale ads here in La Quinta.
9 posted on 12/10/2002 9:56:27 AM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: Willie Green
"Concern over fresh water supply is becoming increasingly common in our nation due to pressures from drought and population growth"

That's a small part of the problem. Resource management or should I say mismanagement is the big problem. Here in water rich Western Washington you have four different state agencies claiming water rights authority. They are constantly butting heads and strutting around bullying counties that also claim authority over water. Then through in the Fed's and various Indian Tribes, nothing gets accommplished.

Eastern Washington farmers depend on irrigation and plans have been drawn for years to utilize massive underground naturally occurring caverns for water storage. Can't get it done, to much agency intervention.

It's like everything else, when the government gets involved, it gets FUBAR.

10 posted on 12/10/2002 10:17:36 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob
It's like everything else, when the government gets involved, it gets FUBAR.

How would you propose rights to resources be allocated?
At the very least, government involvement is necessary to resolve conflicting claims.
In areas where water is less abundant, those claims are more hotly contested.
I'm simply advocating technology that would increase supply for those regions where availability is becoming constrained.

11 posted on 12/10/2002 10:37:54 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: farmfriend
"Free and Independant States"? If you hear of any be sure to let me know.
12 posted on 12/10/2002 10:46:09 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Willie Green
"How would you propose rights to resources be allocated?"

If I had that answer I wouldn't be sitting here watching it rain. I do think the Fed's should butt out and let the state's duke it out.

Technology will be part of the solution. Given the mix who should have control since you've added nuclear into the equasion?

13 posted on 12/10/2002 10:50:50 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: Willie Green
How would you propose rights to resources be allocated?

How about the old-fashioned way...by ownership and mutually agreeable trade by private parties?

At the very least, government involvement is necessary to resolve conflicting claims.

That's what we have a court system for.

In areas where water is less abundant, those claims are more hotly contested.

Well, DUH!

BTW, nuclear desalination is a nice, sensible solution to a difficult problem. HoweverComma there is a group of people who will oppose any and all sensible efforts as somehow "despoiling the environment."

I fail to see how someone can applaud a beaver's dam, built for a beaver's purposes, as "natural," while claiming that a dam built by man for man's purposes is "unnatural." We are a tool-using species, as a casual perusal of "Home Improvement" will show.

14 posted on 12/10/2002 10:54:33 AM PST by HoweverComma
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I fail to see how someone can applaud a beaver's dam, built for a beaver's purposes, as "natural," while claiming that a dam built by man for man's purposes is "unnatural."

You're dealing with a certain mindset, namely the liberal idiot mindset - exemplefied by the efforts to get a handicapped woman up a rugged, steep trail to the top of the White Mountains in New Hampshire ... to use a wheelchair ramp built into an AMC hut (accessible only by that trail). If that ain't stupid, I don't know what is...

15 posted on 12/10/2002 10:58:18 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: HoweverComma
How about the old-fashioned way...by ownership and mutually agreeable trade by private parties?

That was suitable when our nation was first being settled and was much less densely populated.
The growth and development of our modern towns and cities render that ideal much less practical.

16 posted on 12/10/2002 11:01:00 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
OK, then.

You're saying that to keep a Free Republic, we're going to have to kill off or expel a large chunk of our population.

Aside from the obvious candidates (illegal aliens), who ya planning to vote off the island?
17 posted on 12/10/2002 11:17:04 AM PST by HoweverComma
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To: HoweverComma
You're saying that to keep a Free Republic, we're going to have to kill off or expel a large chunk of our population.

Seems to me that's your proposal, not mine.
IMHO, provision of water supply (and wastewater treatment) systems is a legitimate role of government in supplying basic infrastructure for our society.

And in those areas where water resources are limited, I'd prefer to see solutions to expand supply rather than restrict use.

18 posted on 12/10/2002 11:22:43 AM PST by Willie Green
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To: Willie Green
And in those areas where water resources are limited, I'd prefer to see solutions to expand supply rather than restrict use.

Let free enterprise do that. Where the demand exists, supply will appear--if you don't interfere with the marketplace.

19 posted on 12/10/2002 11:30:18 AM PST by HoweverComma
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To: HoweverComma
Let free enterprise do that.

What? Let Free Enterprise dump raw sewage into our rivers and streams so we'd have to pay out the whazoo for bottled water from Sparklettes?

No thanks.

20 posted on 12/10/2002 11:35:52 AM PST by Willie Green
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