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Canadian Editorial: It's not our fault we're morally superior to U.S.
Toronto Star ^ | 12/8/02 | Richard Gwyn

Posted on 12/08/2002 11:15:38 AM PST by P-Marlowe

It's not our fault we're morally superior to U.S.

RICHARD GWYN

Without intending to — his effect was actually the exact opposite of his intent — Deputy Prime Minister John Manley was praising Canadians lavishly the other day when he scolded them for harbouring a feeling of "moral superiority" toward Americans.

In fact, he's largely right in his description. Not that Canadians are morally superior to Americans, or to anyone. Our principal superior quality is that we are a lot luckier than anyone else — lots of natural wealth, lots of space, no enemies, no superpower or colonial responsibilities. (Calling the U.S. president a "moron" is, to get that out of the way early, utterly moronic.)

But a fair number of Canadians do feel morally superior to Americans. Manley, who has a distinctly schoolmasterly tone whenever pronouncing on this topic — earlier he called Canadians "immature" in their attitudes toward Americans — said this was "a sign of our insecurity."

In his diagnosis, he is dead wrong. Doubly dead wrong.

First, for Canadians to feel this way, even if wholly unjustified, is a sign of national self-confidence. It makes us unique in the world.

Lots of others resent Americans, envy them, wish they'd get out of their faces. Some people hate Americans. Many others love them. Lots of people both love them and hate them.

Only Canadians, though, dare to feel morally superior to them.

It's quite challenging to understand why we should be so bold. My own guess is it's because we feel we are better North Americans than they are; that is, we jointly possess most of the essential attributes of being a North American — optimism, love of freedom, a sense of limitless possibilities — but, in addition, have done a better job of being a collective, of having a sense of solidarity.

However you parse all of that, a lot of Canadians feel in no way inferior to Americans, even while immensely admiring their energy, their competitiveness, their boldness, their patriotism.

The big exception to this rule is the right-wing, neo-cons who want Canadians to become as indistinguishable as possible from Americans (two-tier medicine and the rest).

If all of this is good for us — certainly a lot better than our traditional, self-deprecatory foot-shuffling — it's also good for Americans.

They are absolutely certain they are superior to everyone else. Americans absorb with their mothers' milk a conviction that they are an exceptional nation, a city on the hill, a light unto others.

And then at the very moment when all of these presumptions do seem close to being confirmed — America as today's Rome — there comes from the distant, frigid north, a voice saying, "No. We're better."

What's so terrible about that? Is Manley saying that Americans cannot stand to be challenged, that they would collapse into self-doubt if another people say steadily, insistently, that the American way isn't necessarily the absolute best way?

A legitimate source of concern to worrywarts like Manley is that there should be a rise in anti-Americanism in Canada at a time when Americans are so patriotic and so likely to take offence.

Except that anti-Americanism is on the decline in Canada. As it should be.

A huge international poll on attitudes toward the U.S. was released days ago in Washington. In most countries there has been a distinct deterioration in the U.S. image since the last comparable poll, in 1999/2000 or before the attacks on New York.

In Italy, support for the U.S. has dropped from 76 per cent to 70 per cent, in Germany from 78 per cent to 61 per cent, in Britain from 83 per cent to 75 per cent. In Muslim states — unsurprisingly — support has plummeted, down to 10 per cent in Pakistan.

Canada is one of the very few exceptions. Here, the U.S.' favourable image has inched up, from 71 per cent to 72 per cent.

This doesn't mean anti-American stupidities don't exist here. But specific examples are difficult to find. Often, they are merely criticisms of U.S. foreign policy, which, even if unjustified, are perfectly proper to make, in contrast to boneheaded generalities about the American way of life.

Back to the main point. Quite a few Canadians do feel morally superior to Americans. If that nettles some Americans, good — it might help them to understand how the rest of the world feels about Americans' overwhelming presumption of superiority to everyone and everything.

As a bonus, it's good for Canadians to feel cocky in a thoroughly un-Canadian way.


Richard Gwyn appears Wednesday and Sunday. He can be reached at gwynR@sympatico.ca.


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To: albertabound
Note that Gwynn is an expat englishman writing out of the center of the universe... Toronto, the liberal capital of the world.

Old Canadian joke:

Q: How many Torontoans does it take to screw in a light bulb?

A: Two. One to screw in the light bulb and one to check and see if that's the way they do it in New York.

21 posted on 12/08/2002 12:22:12 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: JackRyanCIA
Richard Gwyn is the fat ass in the middle

Looks more like Michael Moore to me.

22 posted on 12/08/2002 12:23:26 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
Or in Calgary, they do not like us either.
23 posted on 12/08/2002 12:25:18 PM PST by albertabound
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To: wunderkind54
A note to Canadiens feeling this way: More power to you!! What you don't seem to realize is that most of Americans don't give a darn what you think. Go start a club with the French, if you must, and collaborate. This kind of thinking tends to bore me!

...And stop crossing the border for medical care. You have the superior National Health, right?

Wait six months for the lithotrypsy van to show up. Nothing like a lot of pain to make one morally superior, like wearing a hair shirt, eh?

Dammit, I have family in the Maritimes, and some of these articles make me ashamed.

24 posted on 12/08/2002 12:41:19 PM PST by Gorzaloon
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To: P-Marlowe
Really?
25 posted on 12/08/2002 1:09:38 PM PST by Pushi
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To: P-Marlowe
It's easy to be morally superior when you don't have to get your hands dirty.

One change after 9 11 is that snotty New York Liberals realized that police, firemen, and soldiers were not objects of ridicule but actual human beings who risked their lives to save the A**ses of those same New York liberals.

An attack on Canada, or on San Francisco, would similarly change the minds of those opposing the war. As Spiro Agnew cynically noted, a conservative is a liberal whose been mugged.
26 posted on 12/08/2002 1:26:57 PM PST by LadyDoc
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To: P-Marlowe
Canadian wrestler Lance Storm has a gimmick where he runs down a list of real faults with our system, then finishes with the comment, "Dont' blame Canada. Blame yourselves."
He, in turn, lifted the inspiration for this from the "South Park" animated picture so well recreated by Robin Williams the last time he hosted the Academy Awards.
My point? Canada is that relative you have that's not quite right but still have to deal with on occasion. We are fortunate to have them as a neighboring country (compared to the other one, especially). We don't have millions of Canadians swarming over our borders like roaches seeking the fruits of our labor. They WILL suffer somewhere down the road for their non-chalante policies and we will be the comforting relative when it happens.
As a country we're just too da*ned nice.
27 posted on 12/08/2002 1:28:28 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: P-Marlowe
Canada,BAH HUMBUG!What a lousy country that's full of "sicksties"morons.Their thinking is totally out of touch with reality.
28 posted on 12/08/2002 2:05:51 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: P-Marlowe
that is, we jointly possess most of the essential attributes of being a North American — optimism, love offreedom,a sense of limitless possibilities — but, in addition, have done a better job of being a collective,of having a sense of solidarity.

Freedom and collective in the same paragraph. This person has built a socialist paradise in his mind.

29 posted on 12/08/2002 2:27:57 PM PST by anactivemind
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To: albertabound
Sure we can add Ottawa. We'll take Toronto and you Western Canucks can sack Ottawa. Then after we deport the Canadian socialists to Europe, we can annex Canada and you Canucks can enjoy the priviledges and resposiblities of being Americans.
30 posted on 12/08/2002 2:37:23 PM PST by Sparta
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To: P-Marlowe
Except that anti-Americanism is on the decline in Canada. As it should be.

That doesn't make you morally superior. Liberal Canada (as evidenced by this editorial) needs to get off of their moral high horse. They're as moral (or as dirty, some might say) as those of us below the 49th.

The sooner our kissing cousins to the north can go ahead and admit to it, we can get back to working together to eliminate terror from across the globe as opposed to our worrying about how porous the 49th has become in recent years.

31 posted on 12/08/2002 2:40:27 PM PST by mhking
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To: P-Marlowe
I sincerely doubt that most Americans feel morally superior to anybody. I personally don't feel morally superior to any honest poor person living in a wretched pesthole anywhere on Earth. But America as a whole is doubtless a far superior place to live than just about any other place you could think of. And what my country as done as a whole makes me feel proud not superior. If critics of the U.S. want to make the claim that we're not perfect and have at times been less than true to our ideals or gone done the wrong path occasionally, I will agree. But try to match what we've done over the long haul, and then make your criticisms. We can take it.
33 posted on 12/08/2002 3:29:01 PM PST by driftless
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To: LadyDoc
An attack on Canada, or on San Francisco, would similarly change the minds of those opposing the war.

Especially when they start to notice they're getting far less donations than the 9/11 victims, because we've all spent the last year and a half listening to them belittle us. I might give to Canada, but I'd have a lot of trouble coming up with a reason to send any money to aid Berkeley.

34 posted on 12/08/2002 3:32:06 PM PST by Timesink
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To: rwfromkansas
Canadians look down on us

Why not, they are ABOVE us on the map.
8-)

35 posted on 12/08/2002 4:04:15 PM PST by reg45
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To: Main Street
And I'm another one that stands with you. Gwynn is a bone fide Asshole, always has been and always will be. I've never been able to stomach one of his "writings" yet. And don't forget, he does come from the Liberal Cesspool known as Toronto also including Ottawa. Ignore this fool.
36 posted on 12/08/2002 4:15:00 PM PST by Canadian Outrage
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To: P-Marlowe
It's quite challenging to understand why we should be so bold. My own guess is it's because we feel we are better North Americans than they are; that is, we jointly possess most of the essential attributes of being a North American — optimism, love of freedom, a sense of limitless possibilities — but, in addition, have done a better job of being a collective, of having a sense of solidarity.

It's funny how Canadians define North America. I don't think it's what they think it is.

37 posted on 12/08/2002 4:29:08 PM PST by JPJones
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To: P-Marlowe
I don't think the title "It's not our fault we're morally superior to U.S." really reflects the article very well. The title seems intended to inflame while the article really is just a discussion of Canadian pride.

Do Canadians have reasons to feel proud? Yes. Do I think the US is better and I'm glad to be a US citizen? Hell, yes, but I'm not going to get bent of of shape over this article.

38 posted on 12/08/2002 4:39:22 PM PST by Randjuke
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To: Randjuke
Oops, "bent of of shape" = bent out of shape.
39 posted on 12/08/2002 4:40:45 PM PST by Randjuke
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To: P-Marlowe
Canada needs to relocated in northern Mexico...
40 posted on 12/08/2002 4:42:30 PM PST by ApesForEvolution
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