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“Nelson Mandela’s Legacy” [Africa Ping]
On the Right Side ^ | George V. Caylor

Posted on 12/08/2002 10:21:39 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March

Two weeks ago we discussed my 1985 trip to Africa, and my observations of chaos in the making.

In 1985 I took my Dad Glenn Caylor with me on an extended safari into the African “bush”. We were hunting some really big game including the Namibian Eland which weighs over a ton and can jump over a ten foot fence - easily.

One night we were driving back from hunting on the Botswana border and had a flat tire in the middle of nowhere. Americans can hardly fathom the term “nowhere” unless they’ve traveled the Outback of Australia or the Kalahari Desert.

Our guide Hennie Koetse’s flashlight was broken so we had to build a small fire to light our work. Our stop and the fire made me nervous because we had been informed earlier that the communist African National Congress (ANC) had been in the area attacking farms and killing farmers. The Republic of South Africa sent in an anti-guerilla unit to ‘suppress’ the violence. The action was fairly close to us and I could imagine myself in some communist guerilla’s crosshairs. Obviously we made it through the night with no casualties.

Most of us have heard of the African National Congress and its most famous member, Nelson Mandela. He was one of the founders of the ANC and was an avowed communist. Mandela was sentenced to life in prison for murdering a policeman and several black magistrates.

Under pressure from America, Nelson Mandela was released from his life sentence. He was then immediately elected as Republic of South Africa’s president.

While Mandela was in prison, he exerted a great deal of power and influence over the affairs of RSA. His wife Winnie was a communist agitator who instigated the torture deaths of dozens of blacks who did not want to be communists. Her most common death-by-torture device was the “necklace” which I won’t describe. It’s just too barbaric. Winnie, however, became the darling of the American press and graced our television sets nightly with her rhetoric. Due to her communist leanings, our press overlooked and forgave her little torture hobby.

How has Republic of South Africa fared since it elected Nelson Mandela as its leader? According to our own Jesse Jackson, South Africa is now “an international role model of what can be. Truly a Utopia. A miracle.”

Before we look at South Africa today, we need to remember that this country once had the lowest crime statistics, the highest employment and one of the best health care systems in the world. Blacks from black-governed neighboring countries crossed into “white racist” South Africa by the millions. When I was there, doctors made routine cost-free visits to everyone’s homes. The economy was strong, people were well-fed, healthy and safe.

Let’s take a look at Mandela’s new so-called “miracle” and see if it holds water.

“The culture of South Africa has become so deformed that we no longer have respect for the rights of others. No state on earth has failed as dismally as ours to meet the fundamental test of any civilization: to enforce law and order, to protect the lives and property of its citizens.” - Police Commissioner George Fivaz.

The problem was ANC’s new laws that protected the rights of everyone but law-abiding citizens. Over 20,000 of South Africa’s most highly trained policemen and women resigned or took early retirement from the force. This left a gap that criminals soon exploited. (Sound familiar?)

Another problem is with the ANC’s new justice department. Of every 109 murders, only nine result in a prison sentence. In other words, you can literally get away with murder 90% of the time.

South Africa is now the “rape capital” of the world - more than double the rate of any other country. Rape cases are seldom, if ever, prosecuted. Black women suffer in silence and their rapes are no longer even reported.

One in three black adults are infected with the AIDS virus. This will leave the country decimated much the same way as neighboring Kenya and Uganda where entire villages are comprised of only the very young and the very old. Their inhabitants of sexual activity age are dead.

I have two friends working as missionaries to those villages. They are building orphanages, clothing the children, and teaching them to survive. The working adults are simply no longer there.

Finally, unemployment has risen to nearly 50%. Of course, blacks now have the vote. And in every election, their black leaders tell them how to vote. Not exactly the freedom promised by Mandela. Jesse Jackson had it wrong. The “new” South Africa doesn’t sound quite like paradise to me. But maybe it is to him.

© 2002 by George V. Caylor. All rights reserved. George Caylor is a wealth planner and syndicated writer in Lynchburg, VA. To read past columns or e-mail him, go to www.OnTheRightSide.com [or the source link at the top]


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To: cmiller623
You guys are trying to debate with a newbie who doesn't justify a response.

Perhaps you can answer my question. What would you have done if your government had gradually taken away all your rights and eventually took away your citizenship?

101 posted on 12/08/2002 8:12:40 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
That is going on here...little by little, which is why this forum was created. I don't doubt that many blacks in South Africa were treated very poorly however, things have gone down hill rapidly from an economic and safety standpoint but you acknowledge none of that...You are stuck on your mantra about how glorious the ANC is...
102 posted on 12/08/2002 8:17:13 PM PST by cmiller623
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To: SteveTuck
The Sandinistas did...

More of your murdering Commie heroes, I presume.

Tell that to the blacks who lived under apartheid...

I would but they are all too busy dying of rape, starvation and disease.

103 posted on 12/08/2002 8:17:15 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SteveTuck
What would you have done if your government had gradually taken away all your rights and eventually took away your citizenship?

You are describing what's happening to the white population of Zimbabwe, right?

104 posted on 12/08/2002 8:18:40 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SteveTuck
They lack an education because the white-minority government denied them that opportunity for generations.

Ah yes...the usual suspects...evil white men. Are they to blame for all of Africa's myriad of nation destroying problems as well?

105 posted on 12/08/2002 8:26:03 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: SteveTuck; nopardons
NP:
Here's another bleary eyed SA Birkenstock clad idealist for you dear.

Her son in law is SA btw Stevie. He freeps at times as well...maybe you'll get lucky.
106 posted on 12/08/2002 8:29:24 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
Ah yes...the usual suspects...evil white men.

Did the blacks or whites implement apartheid?

Are they to blame for all of Africa's myriad of nation destroying problems as well?

Plenty of blame to go around -- blacks and whites share the responsibility for the mess.

107 posted on 12/08/2002 9:10:40 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Tailgunner Joe
You are describing what's happening to the white population of Zimbabwe, right?

Zimbabwe and South Africa (1940s to early 1990s).

108 posted on 12/08/2002 9:11:38 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: Tailgunner Joe
More of your murdering Commie heroes, I presume.

Try to stay focused. The Sandinistas are a good example of a Communist government that surrended power voluntarily.

I would but they are all too busy dying of rape, starvation and disease

Not unlike the apartheid era black children that had an infant mortality rate eight times higher than their white counterparts.

109 posted on 12/08/2002 9:13:51 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: cmiller623
You are stuck on your mantra about how glorious the ANC is...

When have I said one positive thing about the ANC?

110 posted on 12/08/2002 9:14:41 PM PST by SteveTuck
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To: SteveTuck
you're a retread....i recognize your style....

no offense....plenty here already!

even though you are considerably more pc than i'll ever be again.....welcome back

i'm to bed....i'll try to argue some manana

nite!
111 posted on 12/08/2002 9:46:41 PM PST by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy; SteveTuck
So I see. Yet another newbie, who spouts off, spews propaganda from Commies / racists / bleedinghearted Liberals and doesn't know the FIRST thing about facts, history, and could care less.

Okay, Steve, here's where you either prove that you have a scintilla of a clue, or, as we all know, confirm that you are utterly devoid of any factual knowledge, history, reason, and the ability of rational though. :-)

Please be so good as to tell us when it was, that you were last in any part of South Africa. How long did you spend there. Where , exactly were you. Please list the books ( non-fiction; if you please ) that you have read, about present day and the complete history, of what is today, known as South Africa. How many RSA newspapers, and which ones, do you read daily / weekly ?

As many people, on this thread, have told you, blacks, from all over Africa, tried to get into South Africa, UNDER APARTHIED ! Aparttheid was only instituted, in SA, in its recent history. As long ago, as two years ago, BLACK OWNED / RUN / WRITTEN newspapers, were carrying banner headlines, saying : " IT WAS BETTER UNDER APARTHEID ! " . The ANC is and has ALWAYS been COMMUNIST controlled, led, funded, and run. The Communist Party, in South Africa, was started BEFORE it was in the USA. They set out to systematically make good little Commies out of blacks. They had great luck, with those of the Xhosa tribe ( Mandela's ), who aren't even indigenous to the region. The Afrikaners, were and have been, in South Africa, far longer than the Xhosa. As a matter of historical record, the Zulus, who have always gotten along well with the Afrikaners, brought the Xhosa in, AS SLAVES , after soundly beating them in wars. The whites not only freed the Xhosa, they gave them rights, that they did NOT have , as slaves to the Zulus.

Since Mandela and the ANC took over SA, they have not only institued RACIAL QUOTAS , in every conceivable place, they have completely destroyed the police force, the economy of SA, its medical system, and it's schools. They didn't even win the elections, since the beginnings, fairly, but through intimidation, necklacings, torture, and murder. A " paradise " ? Not in my lexicon. Something " wonderrful for blacks " ? No, not at all; not by anyone's measurements !

You haven't even a glimmer of an idea about what it was and what it now is like in South Africa. You're simply parrotting garbage, that you " think " sounds correct, based on F-A-L-S-E-H-O-O-D ! I haven't the time, to teach you South African history. Your closed, tiny mind, filled, as it is, to the brim, with tripe, isn't open enough to read an eyewhitness article, replies from informed FREEPERS, and make a well reasoned response to any of it. Instead, you write incorrect, error filled, mewlings, that one would expect to find on DU.

Don't post, newbie, about what you " feel ", on any topics that you don't one anything at all about. You just look like the contemptable fool, that you are.

112 posted on 12/08/2002 11:24:04 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
More blacks , and black infabts and children, are DYING now, than died throughout Apartheid. What is your source for your flippant stats ?
113 posted on 12/08/2002 11:25:39 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
Apartheid was dying out, BEFORE the UN and the Liberals, in the West, decided to stick their noses into South Africa and install STINKING COMMIES ! But you don't know that and don't care. Learn the facts, before you post innan drivel.
114 posted on 12/08/2002 11:28:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
No one, NOT A SINGLE PERSON , in South Africa, had his / or citizenship " taken away from them. As to " rights "; SA isn't the USA. Please state, from the Constitution ( yes, they've always had one ) of South Africa, what " rights " are granted and to whom.
115 posted on 12/08/2002 11:31:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
WR-O-N-G ! Blacks and coloreds were NOT " slaves ", under Apartheid.

Historically, blacks owned slaves, in South Africa, as did a few whites. Slavery, in South Africa, ended more than a century ago. Wanna try this again ?

Now, " they " ( whomever " they " are ) can choose their own government ? You mean like in Zimbabwe and Haiti ? Under the threats of death, torture, being burned alive, stuffed ballot boxes ? Isn't that special ? :-)

116 posted on 12/08/2002 11:35:11 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
How many blacks, of any tribe, living in South Africa, today, do you know and talk with ? If you know any, are they members of the ANC ?
117 posted on 12/08/2002 11:36:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
I happen to know, I don't have to " think " , or even attempt to imagine, that Nelson Mandela got a fair trial. What do YOU know about it ?
118 posted on 12/08/2002 11:38:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SteveTuck
Indeed, you are new here. Is it too much to ask for a frame a reference and a little about yourself? The reason for that is that we often get scumsucking liberal a-hoes on here who simply like to start arguments and waste people's time. They argue for argument's sake.

Some background would be appreciated.

119 posted on 12/08/2002 11:39:30 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: Verginius Rufus
The crime rate, in 1940, was almost nonexistant and was EXAGGERATED, in " CRY THE BELOVED COUNTRY ". The police force, of that time, unlike today, had criminals cowerring in their shoes. There were NO child rapes, in the 1940s, in South Africa. Today, it is the world's capital of infant rape.BTW, about 99.9 % of those, who rape children, get away with it. This is predominantly a black crime ; black men raping black infants and children.
120 posted on 12/08/2002 11:41:46 PM PST by nopardons
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